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51% of college graduates voted for Romney in 2012 while only 48% for Obama Romney actually lost with highschool educated only and he lost significantly with po

51% of college graduates voted for Romney in 2012 while only 48% for Obama Romney actually lost with highschool educated only and he lost significantly with postgraduate studies only getting 42% of the vote with Obama getting 55%. So really the trend is that academics are liberal, not the highly educated. (That 3% gap in college grads likely accounts for a larger percentage of the population than the massive 13% gap among grad degree holders) http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/ http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups... edit: another source that adds evidence to my argument Professors in humanities that identify as Republican range from 6 to 11 percent. Social Sciences 7 and 9 percent 2% of English professors are Republican. Meanwhile 18% of social scientists are Marxists. This evidence leads me to believe that Academics self select to be liberal and that people with a conservative mindset do not find academia appealing for whatever reason. The reason I rule it has little to do with intelligence of the groups is the prevalence of Marxism amongst academics. Intelligent people that use evidence to reason about their beliefs wouldn't be Marxist. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confessio...

pron 10y ago
The article defines highly educated as people with advanced degrees. They are not academics. I doubt anyone would classify the general population of all college graduates (i.e. from all colleges) in the US as highly educated.
- newacct23 10y ago
  >The article defines highly educated as people with advanced degrees. They are not academics Definition from article: >But the most highly educated Americans — those who have attended graduate or professional school — are starting to come together as a political bloc. Doctors make up 1/3 of a percent of the US population (they don't necessarily have Phds) http://www.wisegeek.org/what-percent-of-the-us-population-do-doctors-comprise.htm http://www.wisegeek.org/what-percent-of-the-us-population-do... Doctors chose Romney over Obama 55% to 36%. http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/survey-doctors-choose-romney-over-obama/ http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/survey-doctors-choose-romn... 1.68% of Americans have a Phd (actually significantly more than I expected and significantly more than I think deserve to be handed out). I really wonder how many of these people do practical work. I can't find statistics to prove my bias so we will have to leave it as is unless someone can find some.
  - hellofunk 10y ago
    Doctors are also among the highest-paid members of American society and, along with wealthy financial professionals, you will typically find them siding more with the Republican Party often out of concern for their tax bracket.
    - newacct23 10y ago
      I modified my main post with some more evidence in support of my theory which I'm posting here so you can see it as a response. Professors in humanities that identify as Republican range from 6 to 11 percent. Social Sciences 7 and 9 percent 2% of English professors are Republican. Meanwhile 18% of social scientists are Marxists. This evidence leads me to believe that Academics self select to be liberal and that people with a conservative mindset do not find academia appealing for whatever reason. The reason I rule it has little to do with intelligence of the groups is the prevalence of Marxism amongst academics. Intelligent people that use evidence to reason about their beliefs wouldn't be Marxist. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confessio...
      - return0 10y ago
        Is that true across sciences or more prevalent in humanities?
      - panglott 10y ago
        I don't think social scientists are Marxist in perhaps the sense you understand it. Social scientists don't want to overthrow the bourgeosie so much as they interpret social systems through the machinery of gender, race, and social class. Gender, race, and social class are absolutely necessary to understand contemporary social structures.
  - unprepare 10y ago
    >Doctors make up 1/3 of a percent of the US population >1.68% of Americans have a Phd If you mean medical doctors you should specify that, Doctors has a different meaning especially within the context of post graduate degree holders.
ArkyBeagle 10y ago
I have a BsCS; if I got an MsCS you could not much consider me any more educated than I already am. Examples abound of medical doctors who hold flatly a-scientific views. Marxism is completely dependent on using narrative as a primary tool. It is also therefore a-scientific. Narrow is the way...
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
> 51% of college graduates voted for Romney in 2012 while only 48% for Obama What happens when you control for race and gender (c.f. the difference in electoral votes that election when you look only at white men (I think the only state Obama would have won was Washington) )

pron 10y ago

The article defines highly educated as people with advanced degrees. They are not academics. I doubt anyone would classify the general population of all college graduates (i.e. from all colleges) in the US as highly educated.

newacct23 10y ago
>The article defines highly educated as people with advanced degrees. They are not academics Definition from article: >But the most highly educated Americans — those who have attended graduate or professional school — are starting to come together as a political bloc. Doctors make up 1/3 of a percent of the US population (they don't necessarily have Phds) http://www.wisegeek.org/what-percent-of-the-us-population-do-doctors-comprise.htm http://www.wisegeek.org/what-percent-of-the-us-population-do... Doctors chose Romney over Obama 55% to 36%. http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/survey-doctors-choose-romney-over-obama/ http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/survey-doctors-choose-romn... 1.68% of Americans have a Phd (actually significantly more than I expected and significantly more than I think deserve to be handed out). I really wonder how many of these people do practical work. I can't find statistics to prove my bias so we will have to leave it as is unless someone can find some.
- hellofunk 10y ago
  Doctors are also among the highest-paid members of American society and, along with wealthy financial professionals, you will typically find them siding more with the Republican Party often out of concern for their tax bracket.
  - newacct23 10y ago
    I modified my main post with some more evidence in support of my theory which I'm posting here so you can see it as a response. Professors in humanities that identify as Republican range from 6 to 11 percent. Social Sciences 7 and 9 percent 2% of English professors are Republican. Meanwhile 18% of social scientists are Marxists. This evidence leads me to believe that Academics self select to be liberal and that people with a conservative mindset do not find academia appealing for whatever reason. The reason I rule it has little to do with intelligence of the groups is the prevalence of Marxism amongst academics. Intelligent people that use evidence to reason about their beliefs wouldn't be Marxist. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confessio...
    - return0 10y ago
      Is that true across sciences or more prevalent in humanities?
    - panglott 10y ago
      I don't think social scientists are Marxist in perhaps the sense you understand it. Social scientists don't want to overthrow the bourgeosie so much as they interpret social systems through the machinery of gender, race, and social class. Gender, race, and social class are absolutely necessary to understand contemporary social structures.
- unprepare 10y ago
  >Doctors make up 1/3 of a percent of the US population >1.68% of Americans have a Phd If you mean medical doctors you should specify that, Doctors has a different meaning especially within the context of post graduate degree holders.

ArkyBeagle 10y ago

I have a BsCS; if I got an MsCS you could not much consider me any more educated than I already am. Examples abound of medical doctors who hold flatly a-scientific views. Marxism is completely dependent on using narrative as a primary tool. It is also therefore a-scientific. Narrow is the way...

GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago

> 51% of college graduates voted for Romney in 2012 while only 48% for Obama What happens when you control for race and gender (c.f. the difference in electoral votes that election when you look only at white men (I think the only state Obama would have won was Washington) )