It's a great tool for dealing with dedicated drive-by griefers, but that's not what most people deserving moderation are — they're usually just good new users f

It's a great tool for dealing with dedicated drive-by griefers, but that's not what most people deserving moderation are — they're usually just good new users figuring out the site norms, or old-timers having a bad day. I've noticed dozens of hellbanned users still posting on HN, and it was never the right treatment except for one of them (the losethos guy).