I feel like what they're doing is good in general but at the same time not my scene for a lot of the same reasons that you mentioned. I suspect that women-orie

I feel like what they're doing is good in general but at the same time not my scene for a lot of the same reasons that you mentioned. I suspect that women-oriented tech organizations lean that way because a large number of people who are women in tech AND who show up to meetups are women who don't have programming jobs and want them. I also think there's a culture that pushes women into lead positions/managment because that will have a very obvious benefit to women who work in tech that work under them. There's been a couple of initiatives that are more about the passion-side of tech that are oriented towards women. Double Union was a pretty good group for that when I was in SF.