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Secret? I don't think it's secret anymore. I follow lots of white nationalists and I have seen it for months already. This one was particularly funny, although

Secret? I don't think it's secret anymore. I follow lots of white nationalists and I have seen it for months already. This one was particularly funny, although I don't know if it's fake or not. https://i.imgur.com/A6aJYs7.png https://i.imgur.com/A6aJYs7.png What's also funny is how the article insists on ((())) being designed and engineered by evil masterminds to be unsearchable, when it's just incidental.

mevile 10y ago
> I follow lots of white nationalists Why?
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- alexisnorman 10y ago
  I like that he deleted his comment that said "I am a white nationalist".
  - unlinker 10y ago
    I did, because people here can get pretty salty and I didn't want to "bite the bait", but yes, now that you insist, I am one, and I am not ashamed of it.
    - untog 10y ago
      "people here can get pretty salty when I admit I am a white nationalist" is probably the most positive thing I've heard anyone say about HN in years.
      - unlinker 10y ago
        I call it the San Francisco bubble. Fortunately, it's just a bubble. ;P
        untog 10y ago
        Weird, I call it "the civilised world bubble". But yeah, I know, silent majority and all that, right? There are dozens of you. Dozens!
        AnimalMuppet 10y ago
        I'm not in San Francisco, not in California, not part of the startup scene, and I'm white, but yet I am proud to be part of that "bubble". But I agree with untog, it's the civilized world bubble. It's the white nationalists that are part of a (shrinking) bubble. TL;DR: The country is not with you, unlinker. Even the whites aren't with you.
    - mevile 10y ago
      Why are you a white nationalist? Do you think badly of people who aren't white or that such people should be treated differently? If so why?
      - yarou 10y ago
        I'm neither white nor a white nationalist, but the way I understand it is that white nationalism seeks to preserve an arbitrary trait known as "whiteness". In other words, they feel that the white "race" as a whole is being genocided because of race mixing. Some feel that there is an international conspiracy of Jews orchestrating this white genocide. If you try to disagree with them, they will reply that you are either a shill or "JIDF" which stands for "Jewish Internet Defense Force". It's not a very homogenous group though, so I try not to generalize them and keep an open mind. Empirically, I will say that there are studies showing working class (blue collar) white youths are worse off economically than black youths, which could explain the rise of this political philosophy.
        xyience 10y ago
        As I understand it it's not even purely race mixing that's a problem but race replacing. I wish every white nationalist would get their DNA sampled so they can see how pure they really are, even just among white people! But anyway broadly-white-peoples are breeding below replacement rates while broadly-(Africans|Mexicans|Arab|Turkish) ethnic groups are not. As a refugee/immigrant to Germany laid it out at some protest, Germany will become a majority-Muslim ethnically-Arab country within some number of decades just from sheer population growth of one group over the other, and what will remain will not be Germany even if it still calls itself such. A white nationalist then is just a person who doesn't want this to happen to their white country. Of course there are the more insane white nationalists who see Jews everywhere and so on, but nationalism is a spectrum you know? Japan for instance remains pretty xenophobic but they can maintain that without also being outright hostile towards Chinese, so the hostility towards Chinese has been going down. If this was 1916 instead of 2016 I think the basic white nationalists would have a stronger case. This isn't a CURRENT_YEAR remark, but just a remark that timescales involving even 40+ years are ridiculously difficult to predict right now because technology overwhelms classic human nature, so when the impact of these things won't be felt for that far off in the classic human history case of technology remaining the same it's not very fruitful to dwell on it in the current reality of technology changing rapidly. That isn't to say they don't have any case at all but a lot of it is too little too late. They want to move to be more like Japan when they should really be satisfied with something more like Singapore. Not importing millions of foreigners permanently would also not be a bad idea but again, a bit too little too late.
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    - SwellJoe 10y ago
      So, this is one of the things that's so disturbing about Trump's rise. It is causing people with repugnant, undemocratic, ideals to feel empowered to be much more open about their beliefs, and more likely to take public action in support of them. There's always been an attempt to normalize hate speech as mere difference of opinion, but now that a popular national politician has tacitly endorsed the extremist arm of the American right, things are getting frightening. Reasonable Republicans and conservatives, of which there are many in tech, should be particularly concerned about this shift.
    - xyience 10y ago
      What type of white? Slavic is different from Anglo-Saxon is different from Germanic is etc., not too long ago all the various white groups in American had their own gangs and gang wars because "white" as a broad term wasn't good enough. Do you think that because of the threats of Mexican-Americans and African-Americans (do you also have any issues with the over-representation of Asians of various types in tech?) it now makes sense to band "broadly European" peoples together in reaction, or is it something else?
untog 10y ago
I... don't really see why what you attached is funny? Not because of the offensive topic but just because... there's no humour there?
- gotchange 10y ago
  Because he's a white nationalist and he admitted down below and he's proud of it.
pygy_ 10y ago
News to me. I suppose we live in different bubbles.
n4r9 10y ago
>What's also funny is how the article insists on ((())) being designed and engineered by evil masterminds to be unsearchable From the article: >Whether they know it or not, Neo-Nazis on Twitter have discovered a brilliant loophole — a code that's difficult to filter Typical white nationalist, not bothering with the details.

mevile 10y ago

> I follow lots of white nationalists Why?

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alexisnorman 10y ago
I like that he deleted his comment that said "I am a white nationalist".
- unlinker 10y ago
  I did, because people here can get pretty salty and I didn't want to "bite the bait", but yes, now that you insist, I am one, and I am not ashamed of it.
  - untog 10y ago
    "people here can get pretty salty when I admit I am a white nationalist" is probably the most positive thing I've heard anyone say about HN in years.
    - unlinker 10y ago
      I call it the San Francisco bubble. Fortunately, it's just a bubble. ;P
      - untog 10y ago
        Weird, I call it "the civilised world bubble". But yeah, I know, silent majority and all that, right? There are dozens of you. Dozens!
      - AnimalMuppet 10y ago
        I'm not in San Francisco, not in California, not part of the startup scene, and I'm white, but yet I am proud to be part of that "bubble". But I agree with untog, it's the civilized world bubble. It's the white nationalists that are part of a (shrinking) bubble. TL;DR: The country is not with you, unlinker. Even the whites aren't with you.
  - mevile 10y ago
    Why are you a white nationalist? Do you think badly of people who aren't white or that such people should be treated differently? If so why?
    - yarou 10y ago
      I'm neither white nor a white nationalist, but the way I understand it is that white nationalism seeks to preserve an arbitrary trait known as "whiteness". In other words, they feel that the white "race" as a whole is being genocided because of race mixing. Some feel that there is an international conspiracy of Jews orchestrating this white genocide. If you try to disagree with them, they will reply that you are either a shill or "JIDF" which stands for "Jewish Internet Defense Force". It's not a very homogenous group though, so I try not to generalize them and keep an open mind. Empirically, I will say that there are studies showing working class (blue collar) white youths are worse off economically than black youths, which could explain the rise of this political philosophy.
      - xyience 10y ago
        As I understand it it's not even purely race mixing that's a problem but race replacing. I wish every white nationalist would get their DNA sampled so they can see how pure they really are, even just among white people! But anyway broadly-white-peoples are breeding below replacement rates while broadly-(Africans|Mexicans|Arab|Turkish) ethnic groups are not. As a refugee/immigrant to Germany laid it out at some protest, Germany will become a majority-Muslim ethnically-Arab country within some number of decades just from sheer population growth of one group over the other, and what will remain will not be Germany even if it still calls itself such. A white nationalist then is just a person who doesn't want this to happen to their white country. Of course there are the more insane white nationalists who see Jews everywhere and so on, but nationalism is a spectrum you know? Japan for instance remains pretty xenophobic but they can maintain that without also being outright hostile towards Chinese, so the hostility towards Chinese has been going down. If this was 1916 instead of 2016 I think the basic white nationalists would have a stronger case. This isn't a CURRENT_YEAR remark, but just a remark that timescales involving even 40+ years are ridiculously difficult to predict right now because technology overwhelms classic human nature, so when the impact of these things won't be felt for that far off in the classic human history case of technology remaining the same it's not very fruitful to dwell on it in the current reality of technology changing rapidly. That isn't to say they don't have any case at all but a lot of it is too little too late. They want to move to be more like Japan when they should really be satisfied with something more like Singapore. Not importing millions of foreigners permanently would also not be a bad idea but again, a bit too little too late.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - SwellJoe 10y ago
    So, this is one of the things that's so disturbing about Trump's rise. It is causing people with repugnant, undemocratic, ideals to feel empowered to be much more open about their beliefs, and more likely to take public action in support of them. There's always been an attempt to normalize hate speech as mere difference of opinion, but now that a popular national politician has tacitly endorsed the extremist arm of the American right, things are getting frightening. Reasonable Republicans and conservatives, of which there are many in tech, should be particularly concerned about this shift.
  - xyience 10y ago
    What type of white? Slavic is different from Anglo-Saxon is different from Germanic is etc., not too long ago all the various white groups in American had their own gangs and gang wars because "white" as a broad term wasn't good enough. Do you think that because of the threats of Mexican-Americans and African-Americans (do you also have any issues with the over-representation of Asians of various types in tech?) it now makes sense to band "broadly European" peoples together in reaction, or is it something else?

untog 10y ago

I... don't really see why what you attached is funny? Not because of the offensive topic but just because... there's no humour there?

gotchange 10y ago
Because he's a white nationalist and he admitted down below and he's proud of it.

pygy_ 10y ago

News to me. I suppose we live in different bubbles.

n4r9 10y ago

>What's also funny is how the article insists on ((())) being designed and engineered by evil masterminds to be unsearchable From the article: >Whether they know it or not, Neo-Nazis on Twitter have discovered a brilliant loophole — a code that's difficult to filter Typical white nationalist, not bothering with the details.