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Scammy and spammy. Where are the specs? Sure, you can get different storage sizes, that's nice. What about the internals? Screen size, resolution, and technolo

by cheald 17y ago

Scammy and spammy. Where are the specs? Sure, you can get different storage sizes, that's nice. What about the internals? Screen size, resolution, and technology? Battery life? 3G data bands? Weight? Dimensions? Has anyone reputable reviewed these? The name and logo both look to be ripped off from http://humanized.com/enso/ http://humanized.com/enso/ The OP's account is brand new, and has already spammed it up a few times: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1177080 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1177080 The Google cache for http://www.onedollargold.com/ http://www.onedollargold.com/ is http://bit.ly/dALAt1 http://bit.ly/dALAt1 which is just a -wee- bit odd. Spamalicious.

jacquesm 17y ago
I've found a specs page: http://enso-now.com/n/info.php http://enso-now.com/n/info.php It looks as though the phone portion of the functionality is a complete after thought, using a dongle, which makes the device pretty much useless as a phone for everyday use. Funny how the email address for returns is 'retuns@enso-now.com', I'm guessing they don't get a lot of returns :) Their privacy policy is copied from here: http://www.freemanbeauty.com/page.asp?id=377 http://www.freemanbeauty.com/page.asp?id=377
- admin-enso-now 17y ago
  The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, and does not have support for video calls. Our privacy policy is just standard, does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? i did not know that. What do you find funny about our email address ? please share a good laugh with me. Thanks!
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    > The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, It does eh ? From your own website, the specs page: "GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) via external micro USB dongle" So, no you don't have phone functionality. > does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? Does it add value ? No, but it means that you are not above infringing on someone else's copyright which in turn means that you seem to take a cavalier attitude towards ethics, which in turn reflects badly on your corporate attitude. And when you're asking people to trust you with their money your ethics are important. So, your privacy policy is not just 'standard' it is a rip-off. > What do you find funny about our email address ? It's RETURNS, not RETUNS. Thanks! edit: And I just realized that your specs page is a rip-off of this apple.com page: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ Trust me, mr. Legal Entity, that's one of the most stupid things you could have done. Oh, and the rest of the website is a rip-off of: http://www.uptailor.com/Dress-shirts-comprehensive/Fabric/fabric-introduction.html http://www.uptailor.com/Dress-shirts-comprehensive/Fabric/fa... I'm sure they're very happy about that too.
    - admin-enso-now 17y ago
      I think you are just a frustrated mind, that does not have any better reason to spend time. Again, the phone has GSM functionality, if you want to bought it is there for you to try. I did not infringe any copyright, the English language is free and i can use it as i want, i have freedom of speech as you. Our company is not a "corporate" as you call it, it is a startup and we are young guys, and you are just making your self look ridiculous acting like this. I would have expected comments about how to improve. not rude rants like yours. And thanks for let me know about that typo, i will fix it now, English is not my mother tongue anyway. Our spec page is inspired from the apple one, our whole website is differenet. Our company is called Enso Co. Ltd, snf not Mr Legal Entity, so please note it. You really like to spy other people's lifes. Do you have one on your own ? Uptailor.com is my customer. I am a web developer also, so there is nothing wrong with it. All developers recycle their codebase, you did not know that ? It is a pity. Thanks anyway for all your comments. They are precious. Albertp
      - jacquesm 17y ago
        So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too. Look familiar ? http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&js= http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...
        cheald 17y ago
        To expound on that, http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-leaked-confirmed/ http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-le... has the OP commenting that he's ordering a lot of the SMiT devices, and is in a "trading" business. I think we're looking at a reseller here, not a manufacturer, which would explain a lot of the confusion regarding the specs and shippability of the device.
        jacquesm 17y ago
        Good find. So much for 'prototypes' then, in that post he writes it is a sample. Bit of a difference there. That also explains why he hasn't got a clue about the normal phases a piece of hardware goes through before you are in a position to ship product. I still don't get where the discrepancy of "Anyway i am not pre-selling anything, the device is currently produced and i can ship you 500 hundreds of pieces to you in a week." to "I am just a couple of weeks away from being able to ship." comes from as well as the documentation stating clearly that the base unit definitely does not have phone capability (it's marketed as a media player) and yet 'Alberto' states clearly that it has, but on their specs page it says that GSM/EDGE/UMTS are through a dongle. Maybe his minimum order volume is 500 pieces and he hopes that he can scrape together the money to get the order delivered. That could lead to 'interesting' situations if not enough people order. have a read here: http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/291-tons-ipad-competitors-popping-up-2.html http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/291-tons-... I guess selling fake brand watches wasn't enough of an income stream: http://watch-replicas.net/ http://watch-replicas.net/ enso-now and admin-enso-now are sockpuppets for lostintech, who professes to have some idea of how to spot fake watches: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1116174 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1116174 No kidding...
admin-enso-now 17y ago
Hi, thanks for you comments. All the specs are visible in our website, i do not what's wrong with you, if something is not clear please just send an email to us at info@enso-now.com I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. Regarding the logo issue, i am getting tired of this, i hoped HN would give out smart comments for startups, not the way around. The Enso logo is already popular. Check it out on google with a simple research. Anyway i like it and i choose it. The Post has not been spammed, i stated clearly at the start of the post ( did you read it or you are just trolling here ? ) that we were double posting for a PURPOSE. Finally, regarding the google cache delirium with onedollargold.com, ( that's the blog of my girlfriend totally unrelated to enso-now.com ) what the heck does that mean ? it is a domain i own, i am a web developer too, i use that for testing, than ? you found a link? what is that nasty bitly stuff ? You look like as a teenager honestly. I hoped to get more serious feedbacks from HN. it is a real pity. Anyway thank you. Alberto
- jacquesm 17y ago
  > I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. I call you a scammer and a spammer, now please sue me. My puppy is a legal entity too, that doesn't mean that I can't call it whatever I like and if you come here to hawk your product and you get called out on numerous flags that show that you are not exactly above board then you can either explain what's going on or you'll have to live with being labeled. Your threat actually confirms more than anything else would that this is a scam, a real company would be able to dispel these doubts about the product in a very easy way. You've ripped off a logo, copied the privacy policy for your website word-for-word with a few changes here and there to make it look original, that by itself is enough to put you in the 'suspect' category. Next you seem to be unaware of standard naming conventions regarding the production of a device like this, you claim you are capable of shipping when in the normal course of events you'd be at least months away from that. HN is probably the last place on the planet where you should come trying to hawk a product in this way.

by cheald 17y ago

jacquesm 17y ago

I've found a specs page: http://enso-now.com/n/info.php http://enso-now.com/n/info.php It looks as though the phone portion of the functionality is a complete after thought, using a dongle, which makes the device pretty much useless as a phone for everyday use. Funny how the email address for returns is 'retuns@enso-now.com', I'm guessing they don't get a lot of returns :) Their privacy policy is copied from here: http://www.freemanbeauty.com/page.asp?id=377 http://www.freemanbeauty.com/page.asp?id=377

admin-enso-now 17y ago
The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, and does not have support for video calls. Our privacy policy is just standard, does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? i did not know that. What do you find funny about our email address ? please share a good laugh with me. Thanks!
- jacquesm 17y ago
  > The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, It does eh ? From your own website, the specs page: "GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) via external micro USB dongle" So, no you don't have phone functionality. > does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? Does it add value ? No, but it means that you are not above infringing on someone else's copyright which in turn means that you seem to take a cavalier attitude towards ethics, which in turn reflects badly on your corporate attitude. And when you're asking people to trust you with their money your ethics are important. So, your privacy policy is not just 'standard' it is a rip-off. > What do you find funny about our email address ? It's RETURNS, not RETUNS. Thanks! edit: And I just realized that your specs page is a rip-off of this apple.com page: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ Trust me, mr. Legal Entity, that's one of the most stupid things you could have done. Oh, and the rest of the website is a rip-off of: http://www.uptailor.com/Dress-shirts-comprehensive/Fabric/fabric-introduction.html http://www.uptailor.com/Dress-shirts-comprehensive/Fabric/fa... I'm sure they're very happy about that too.
  - admin-enso-now 17y ago
    I think you are just a frustrated mind, that does not have any better reason to spend time. Again, the phone has GSM functionality, if you want to bought it is there for you to try. I did not infringe any copyright, the English language is free and i can use it as i want, i have freedom of speech as you. Our company is not a "corporate" as you call it, it is a startup and we are young guys, and you are just making your self look ridiculous acting like this. I would have expected comments about how to improve. not rude rants like yours. And thanks for let me know about that typo, i will fix it now, English is not my mother tongue anyway. Our spec page is inspired from the apple one, our whole website is differenet. Our company is called Enso Co. Ltd, snf not Mr Legal Entity, so please note it. You really like to spy other people's lifes. Do you have one on your own ? Uptailor.com is my customer. I am a web developer also, so there is nothing wrong with it. All developers recycle their codebase, you did not know that ? It is a pity. Thanks anyway for all your comments. They are precious. Albertp
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too. Look familiar ? http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&js= http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...
      - cheald 17y ago
        To expound on that, http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-leaked-confirmed/ http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-le... has the OP commenting that he's ordering a lot of the SMiT devices, and is in a "trading" business. I think we're looking at a reseller here, not a manufacturer, which would explain a lot of the confusion regarding the specs and shippability of the device.
        jacquesm 17y ago
        Good find. So much for 'prototypes' then, in that post he writes it is a sample. Bit of a difference there. That also explains why he hasn't got a clue about the normal phases a piece of hardware goes through before you are in a position to ship product. I still don't get where the discrepancy of "Anyway i am not pre-selling anything, the device is currently produced and i can ship you 500 hundreds of pieces to you in a week." to "I am just a couple of weeks away from being able to ship." comes from as well as the documentation stating clearly that the base unit definitely does not have phone capability (it's marketed as a media player) and yet 'Alberto' states clearly that it has, but on their specs page it says that GSM/EDGE/UMTS are through a dongle. Maybe his minimum order volume is 500 pieces and he hopes that he can scrape together the money to get the order delivered. That could lead to 'interesting' situations if not enough people order. have a read here: http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/291-tons-ipad-competitors-popping-up-2.html http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/291-tons-... I guess selling fake brand watches wasn't enough of an income stream: http://watch-replicas.net/ http://watch-replicas.net/ enso-now and admin-enso-now are sockpuppets for lostintech, who professes to have some idea of how to spot fake watches: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1116174 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1116174 No kidding...

admin-enso-now 17y ago

Hi, thanks for you comments. All the specs are visible in our website, i do not what's wrong with you, if something is not clear please just send an email to us at info@enso-now.com I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. Regarding the logo issue, i am getting tired of this, i hoped HN would give out smart comments for startups, not the way around. The Enso logo is already popular. Check it out on google with a simple research. Anyway i like it and i choose it. The Post has not been spammed, i stated clearly at the start of the post ( did you read it or you are just trolling here ? ) that we were double posting for a PURPOSE. Finally, regarding the google cache delirium with onedollargold.com, ( that's the blog of my girlfriend totally unrelated to enso-now.com ) what the heck does that mean ? it is a domain i own, i am a web developer too, i use that for testing, than ? you found a link? what is that nasty bitly stuff ? You look like as a teenager honestly. I hoped to get more serious feedbacks from HN. it is a real pity. Anyway thank you. Alberto

jacquesm 17y ago
> I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. I call you a scammer and a spammer, now please sue me. My puppy is a legal entity too, that doesn't mean that I can't call it whatever I like and if you come here to hawk your product and you get called out on numerous flags that show that you are not exactly above board then you can either explain what's going on or you'll have to live with being labeled. Your threat actually confirms more than anything else would that this is a scam, a real company would be able to dispel these doubts about the product in a very easy way. You've ripped off a logo, copied the privacy policy for your website word-for-word with a few changes here and there to make it look original, that by itself is enough to put you in the 'suspect' category. Next you seem to be unaware of standard naming conventions regarding the production of a device like this, you claim you are capable of shipping when in the normal course of events you'd be at least months away from that. HN is probably the last place on the planet where you should come trying to hawk a product in this way.