>Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. Haha, the philosopher arrives. OK: Is civilization beneficial to society? Was stopping hunting/gathering and loading ourselves

>Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. Haha, the philosopher arrives. OK: Is civilization beneficial to society? Was stopping hunting/gathering and loading ourselves up with long work hours and unhealthy civilization-required carb diets beneficial? If you want to play the game of philosophy like this then we can just as easily argue that electricity, the internet, the internal combustion engine, coal-derived electricity, splitting the atom, computers in general, the Green Revolution of agricultural modification, all of this isn't beneficial. But, if we dive under the clouds and use a bit more grounded definition of benefit, it becomes much harder to dismiss the benefit of real utility.