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Have you considered the "non-facebook users" coordinate offline, in-person and can use other technologies like SMS, email, phone calls, IM, chat apps, running i

Have you considered the "non-facebook users" coordinate offline, in-person and can use other technologies like SMS, email, phone calls, IM, chat apps, running into friends at the store, visiting a friend's workplace and "passing the word along" telling friend A who tells friend B?

DominikR 10y ago
Your examples aside from chat apps are quite unrealistic. I don't even know when was the last time I invited someone to an event using any of the listed methods, it must have been years. But even if running into friends at the store was a thing, it doesn't mean that Facebook is not used by a billion people for organising social events and is therefore beneficial to them.
- arcticfox 10y ago
  Wild, I just got invited to join a group for coffee over SMS. And before that, to meet with a technical group on MeetUp. And before that to meet up with my friends on GroupMe.
  - DominikR 10y ago
    See my above comment to hellbanner. Aside from that MeetUp and GroupMe are social networks too. Yes, they are different but I didn't say that Facebook is the end all perfect implementation of a social network. I just refuse anyone telling me that Facebook isn't beneficial without very good proof, because it is to me and to my social circle.
- hellbanner 10y ago
  Human population of this planet is over 7 billion. I referred to non-facebook users Unrealistic for you and the other billion facebook users perhaps, yes. Different people use different methods of communicating.
  - DominikR 10y ago
    Well even if 6 billion use emails, it is no proof that Facebook is not beneficial to the others. It is at least to me and to the parent.
- nostrademons 10y ago
  Pretty much all my invites go out over e-mail. Some of my Googler friends use Google+, but even that gets received via e-mail. Almost all my friends are on Facebook, but about half don't check it with any regularity, so sending an invite via Facebook means a good chance that they won't get it until after the event.
criley2 10y ago
"and can use other technologies" The fact that they are not using these technologies to stay in touch after choosing to eschew the primary technology demonstrates reality. It's not my job to cater to every individual persons tech interests. If you don't want to use Facebook, thats fine, but you cannot complain when you don't get the benefit of Facebook. If you don't want to own a car, that's fine, but you cannot complain when you don't get the benefit of a car. These are personal decisions here. Conformity is disliked but presents great benefit to social cohesion. If you're a nonconformist, you don't get to have your cake and eat it. You have to deal with negative side effects of non-conformity. They're welcome to use secondary technologies to communicate and stay in touch, but in practice, it takes dramatically more effort and brain space to do this, and as a result, they do not accomplish their goal
- wolfgke 10y ago
  > If you don't want to use Facebook, thats fine, but you cannot complain when you don't get the benefit of Facebook. But I can complain that Facebook has to abide the European data privacy acts since Facebook operates under Facebook Ltd. as an Irish company.
  - criley2 10y ago
    >I can complain about something totally unrelated to a conversation of people being unwilling to use Facebook and expecting everyone to cater to them OK yeah you can :)

DominikR 10y ago

Your examples aside from chat apps are quite unrealistic. I don't even know when was the last time I invited someone to an event using any of the listed methods, it must have been years. But even if running into friends at the store was a thing, it doesn't mean that Facebook is not used by a billion people for organising social events and is therefore beneficial to them.

arcticfox 10y ago
Wild, I just got invited to join a group for coffee over SMS. And before that, to meet with a technical group on MeetUp. And before that to meet up with my friends on GroupMe.
- DominikR 10y ago
  See my above comment to hellbanner. Aside from that MeetUp and GroupMe are social networks too. Yes, they are different but I didn't say that Facebook is the end all perfect implementation of a social network. I just refuse anyone telling me that Facebook isn't beneficial without very good proof, because it is to me and to my social circle.
hellbanner 10y ago
Human population of this planet is over 7 billion. I referred to non-facebook users Unrealistic for you and the other billion facebook users perhaps, yes. Different people use different methods of communicating.
- DominikR 10y ago
  Well even if 6 billion use emails, it is no proof that Facebook is not beneficial to the others. It is at least to me and to the parent.
nostrademons 10y ago
Pretty much all my invites go out over e-mail. Some of my Googler friends use Google+, but even that gets received via e-mail. Almost all my friends are on Facebook, but about half don't check it with any regularity, so sending an invite via Facebook means a good chance that they won't get it until after the event.

criley2 10y ago

"and can use other technologies" The fact that they are not using these technologies to stay in touch after choosing to eschew the primary technology demonstrates reality. It's not my job to cater to every individual persons tech interests. If you don't want to use Facebook, thats fine, but you cannot complain when you don't get the benefit of Facebook. If you don't want to own a car, that's fine, but you cannot complain when you don't get the benefit of a car. These are personal decisions here. Conformity is disliked but presents great benefit to social cohesion. If you're a nonconformist, you don't get to have your cake and eat it. You have to deal with negative side effects of non-conformity. They're welcome to use secondary technologies to communicate and stay in touch, but in practice, it takes dramatically more effort and brain space to do this, and as a result, they do not accomplish their goal

wolfgke 10y ago
> If you don't want to use Facebook, thats fine, but you cannot complain when you don't get the benefit of Facebook. But I can complain that Facebook has to abide the European data privacy acts since Facebook operates under Facebook Ltd. as an Irish company.
- criley2 10y ago
  >I can complain about something totally unrelated to a conversation of people being unwilling to use Facebook and expecting everyone to cater to them OK yeah you can :)