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Roughly translated from http://www.golem.de/news/community-fork-und-neues-unternehmen-nextcloud-ist-der-neustart-fuer-owncloud-1606-121243.html http://www.golem

by gpvos 10y ago

Roughly translated from http://www.golem.de/news/community-fork-und-neues-unternehmen-nextcloud-ist-der-neustart-fuer-owncloud-1606-121243.html http://www.golem.de/news/community-fork-und-neues-unternehme... : Jos Poortvliet, Owncloud's former community manager and now responsible for communication at Nextcloud calls it a "new start". Karlitschek and Poortvliet give as reason for the new founding "structural problems" and some "economic decisions" of the Owncloud company, that caused great dissatisfaction. They do not want to give further details. Nextcloud's business model should be focused on long-term viability and sustainability. Apparently the Owncloud company could not offer that in a satisfactory measure.

NetStrikeForce 10y ago
It sounds like they didn't have a viable business model, so they're starting a new company to get rid of any ties the old had. Maybe there's VC money coming in and this is a requirement to be able to be sold later... Who knows? :)
- fbartels 10y ago
  you mean even more vc, than there was already in the old inc.?
  - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
    Apparently not. I stand corrected! :)
- evook 10y ago
  Based on what I heared from someone involved, it's actually the opposite. They don't want VC money to come in and loose theirs influence in the decision making.
  - majewsky 10y ago
    I'd guess the same. The new company is a GmbH (German version of a "Ltd." AFAIK), not a stock corporation. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_mit_beschränkter_Haftung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_mit_beschränkter_...
- stp-ip 10y ago
  There doesn't seem to be VC money involved with nextcloud. Spreed.com/me is funding the transition and stock will focus on being owned by employees it seems.
- teekert 10y ago
  It sounds more like a (more) viable (or maybe, more profitable) business model went against the founders/tech-experts ideals and a collision occurred. I think it is very mature of Frank not to speak out on the issue while still in a probably somewhat emotional state about it. I'm curious what comes out when the dust settles, a statement from people left at ownCloud would be very nice and appropriate...

by gpvos 10y ago

NetStrikeForce 10y ago

It sounds like they didn't have a viable business model, so they're starting a new company to get rid of any ties the old had. Maybe there's VC money coming in and this is a requirement to be able to be sold later... Who knows? :)

fbartels 10y ago
you mean even more vc, than there was already in the old inc.?
- NetStrikeForce 10y ago
  Apparently not. I stand corrected! :)
evook 10y ago
Based on what I heared from someone involved, it's actually the opposite. They don't want VC money to come in and loose theirs influence in the decision making.
- majewsky 10y ago
  I'd guess the same. The new company is a GmbH (German version of a "Ltd." AFAIK), not a stock corporation. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_mit_beschränkter_Haftung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_mit_beschränkter_...
stp-ip 10y ago
There doesn't seem to be VC money involved with nextcloud. Spreed.com/me is funding the transition and stock will focus on being owned by employees it seems.
teekert 10y ago
It sounds more like a (more) viable (or maybe, more profitable) business model went against the founders/tech-experts ideals and a collision occurred. I think it is very mature of Frank not to speak out on the issue while still in a probably somewhat emotional state about it. I'm curious what comes out when the dust settles, a statement from people left at ownCloud would be very nice and appropriate...