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you don't need a car anywhere in LA. take public transit, or stay in one neighborhood, i.e. santa monica. it's not rocket science. when people visit LA they

you don't need a car anywhere in LA. take public transit, or stay in one neighborhood, i.e. santa monica. it's not rocket science. when people visit LA they spend hours driving across town over and over, for absolutely no reason. you don't have to do that. LA residents avoid doing that at all costs.

tomjakubowski 10y ago
Yup. When I lived in Venice I went to great efforts not to cross the 405 for errands unless absolutely necessary (and even then, tried to batch trips if possible). If Expo II had been around I might've taken that across the 405 instead of driving. By the same token, if you move to the Westside from pretty much anywhere else in LA, you'll get tons of shit from your friends who now have to go over the river and through the woods to see you.
- exclusiv 10y ago
  It's not worth it to cross the 405 much. If you stay west it's pretty easy to get around. The ocean breeze is hard to leave and friends will come visit you all the time if you have adequate parking, live near the beach, and have decent space to hang out. I rarely visit my buddy because he only has 1 of those things in Venice and I have friends drive upwards of an hour almost every weekend to hang out at my place.
  - deliveryboyman 10y ago
    What are some neighborhoods that have all of things that you mentioned?
    - exclusiv 10y ago
      El Segundo, Playa Del Rey, Westchester, parts of Manhattan Beach (just east of Sepulveda) and Redondo Beach
groby_b 10y ago
You live in a different LA than I do, it seems. LA residents drive all over the frigging place all the time. It's not like the 405 is evidence of judicious use of private transportation. Sure, you can choose one neighborhood - except your friends chose another one, your employer a third, culture happens elsewhere, and your doctor is always at the other side of the moon. You can make a no-car household work, but you're much more restrained in what you can do, compared to a city with even semi-decent public transport, like Chicago. Yes, you can take public transport. Pre-expo-line, the 8 miles from my home to work were a 120-150 minute ride. One way. Now, with the expo line, I can do 8 miles in an hour. Whee. LA residents unfortunately need a car for many instances, because that's the only way to get anywhere without spending a day.
- amyjess 10y ago
  What's wrong with Uber and Lyft?
  - groby_b 10y ago
    Uber to work is ~$15 one way. That's $30 a day, or $600 a month. And I haven't visited a single friend with that budget. So probably not a viable solution :)
- beachstartup 10y ago
  you have the power to improve your own living conditions. you are not a victim of the city you live in. give it a shot, buddy. i'm rooting for you. i believe in you!
  - groby_b 10y ago
    Uh, sure. I'll go fix public transit in L.A. Not going to happen in the near term. Plenty of people are trying to improve this, but it's a very slow process. L.A. will, for the foreseeable future, stay a car culture. But continue rooting. Not that boundless enthusiasm without any plan does anything to change reality, but it's such an L.A. mindset, it's endearing.
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tomjakubowski 10y ago

Yup. When I lived in Venice I went to great efforts not to cross the 405 for errands unless absolutely necessary (and even then, tried to batch trips if possible). If Expo II had been around I might've taken that across the 405 instead of driving. By the same token, if you move to the Westside from pretty much anywhere else in LA, you'll get tons of shit from your friends who now have to go over the river and through the woods to see you.

exclusiv 10y ago
It's not worth it to cross the 405 much. If you stay west it's pretty easy to get around. The ocean breeze is hard to leave and friends will come visit you all the time if you have adequate parking, live near the beach, and have decent space to hang out. I rarely visit my buddy because he only has 1 of those things in Venice and I have friends drive upwards of an hour almost every weekend to hang out at my place.
- deliveryboyman 10y ago
  What are some neighborhoods that have all of things that you mentioned?
  - exclusiv 10y ago
    El Segundo, Playa Del Rey, Westchester, parts of Manhattan Beach (just east of Sepulveda) and Redondo Beach

groby_b 10y ago

You live in a different LA than I do, it seems. LA residents drive all over the frigging place all the time. It's not like the 405 is evidence of judicious use of private transportation. Sure, you can choose one neighborhood - except your friends chose another one, your employer a third, culture happens elsewhere, and your doctor is always at the other side of the moon. You can make a no-car household work, but you're much more restrained in what you can do, compared to a city with even semi-decent public transport, like Chicago. Yes, you can take public transport. Pre-expo-line, the 8 miles from my home to work were a 120-150 minute ride. One way. Now, with the expo line, I can do 8 miles in an hour. Whee. LA residents unfortunately need a car for many instances, because that's the only way to get anywhere without spending a day.

amyjess 10y ago
What's wrong with Uber and Lyft?
- groby_b 10y ago
  Uber to work is ~$15 one way. That's $30 a day, or $600 a month. And I haven't visited a single friend with that budget. So probably not a viable solution :)
beachstartup 10y ago
you have the power to improve your own living conditions. you are not a victim of the city you live in. give it a shot, buddy. i'm rooting for you. i believe in you!
- groby_b 10y ago
  Uh, sure. I'll go fix public transit in L.A. Not going to happen in the near term. Plenty of people are trying to improve this, but it's a very slow process. L.A. will, for the foreseeable future, stay a car culture. But continue rooting. Not that boundless enthusiasm without any plan does anything to change reality, but it's such an L.A. mindset, it's endearing.

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