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It's threads like these where you start to wonder just how many marketing teams are arguing with each other in the comments. I take the FUD with a grain of salt

by zxcvcxz 10y ago

It's threads like these where you start to wonder just how many marketing teams are arguing with each other in the comments. I take the FUD with a grain of salt: there is a lot of financial incentive to create FUD, where there is financial incentive and little to no regulations a market will naturally arise. It's going to get worse as the bubble pops and companies become more and more desperate.

vox_mollis 10y ago
Indeed. The upvoting of bcantrill seems to be devoid of understanding that he has been waging a personal vendetta against CoreOS for some time now, and his comments should be understood in that context.
notacoward 10y ago
I don't think it's marketing teams. There are at least a half dozen CoreOS employees/contributors commenting here, plus a couple of known allies. On the "other side" there's Bryan, me, and one person who seems to be an ex-employee. AFAIK none of them are in marketing, or even in coordination with marketing. Certainly, I often get flak from my company's official mouthpieces for saying things that conflict with their preferred talking points. They wish they could control what I say. Mostly I think this is a matter of people naturally standing up for their friends and colleagues, which is a wonderful thing, vs. people who have specific concerns about The Right Way to do either technical or non-technical things. No coordination or collusion is necessary. You can see exactly the same thing happen for every company or project that's discussed here, or on Twitter, or wherever. Try criticizing a YC portfolio company some time. Not all of the people arguing with you will admit their affiliations, and of course the downvotes are all anonymous anyway. Just remember, the more skin someone has in the game, the more tempted they'll be to cross that vague line into astroturf. All the rest of us can do is admit our affiliations and biases, and hope that people will get their heads out of the ad hominem gutter enough to reach rational conclusions about the facts being presented.

by zxcvcxz 10y ago

vox_mollis 10y ago

Indeed. The upvoting of bcantrill seems to be devoid of understanding that he has been waging a personal vendetta against CoreOS for some time now, and his comments should be understood in that context.

notacoward 10y ago

I don't think it's marketing teams. There are at least a half dozen CoreOS employees/contributors commenting here, plus a couple of known allies. On the "other side" there's Bryan, me, and one person who seems to be an ex-employee. AFAIK none of them are in marketing, or even in coordination with marketing. Certainly, I often get flak from my company's official mouthpieces for saying things that conflict with their preferred talking points. They wish they could control what I say. Mostly I think this is a matter of people naturally standing up for their friends and colleagues, which is a wonderful thing, vs. people who have specific concerns about The Right Way to do either technical or non-technical things. No coordination or collusion is necessary. You can see exactly the same thing happen for every company or project that's discussed here, or on Twitter, or wherever. Try criticizing a YC portfolio company some time. Not all of the people arguing with you will admit their affiliations, and of course the downvotes are all anonymous anyway. Just remember, the more skin someone has in the game, the more tempted they'll be to cross that vague line into astroturf. All the rest of us can do is admit our affiliations and biases, and hope that people will get their heads out of the ad hominem gutter enough to reach rational conclusions about the facts being presented.