Ya that's a fair point. I still think that in general you're likely to have worse uptime, or at best just comparable uptime to large cloud services in most case

Ya that's a fair point. I still think that in general you're likely to have worse uptime, or at best just comparable uptime to large cloud services in most cases. Cloud services just have to be equal to internally run ones in this regard, since they save so much in other areas. So I guess people have to decide: is 20 hours of downtime every few years worth running your own services internally and paying people full time to manage them?