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RDP ? Why doesn't anyone use the official protocol for remote desktop on Windows ? It's fast. I say this as a unix dev that likes to RDP into a Windows box to t

RDP ? Why doesn't anyone use the official protocol for remote desktop on Windows ? It's fast. I say this as a unix dev that likes to RDP into a Windows box to test stuff.

detaro 10y ago
Many people don't think of RDP because it isn't great for support-type jobs: you can't share the screen with the local user. But for administrative purposes where that is not required it is a good way to go.
- dsp1234 10y ago
  That's what "Window Remote Assistance"[0] is for. "By following a few steps, you can invite someone to connect to your computer. After he or she is connected, that person can view your computer screen and chat with you about what you both see. With your permission, your helper can even use his or her own mouse and keyboard to control your computer and show you how to fix a problem." [0] - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-windows-remote-assistance http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-windows-r...
  - unprepare 10y ago
    yeah cuz i want to spend half an hour explaining how to send an invite to the CEO who cant connect to his email 5 minutes before a critical meeting.... in other words, teamviewer requires 0 user interaction
    - dogma1138 10y ago
      If you can create scripts that do that for you.... If it's a domain computer you don't even need that.
      - unprepare 10y ago
        scripts are fallible, especially when the user is in another country with no access to the DC servers is one thing, user support is another animal.
pat_space 10y ago
windows 10 home doesn't include RDP
- Aldo_MX 10y ago
  the last time I checked it included the client, anyway, you usually don't mount a server with windows home.
  - drdaeman 10y ago
    The server is present in Home editions as well, although the access is invite-only. It can be found under the "Remote Assistance" name (msra.exe). I'm not sure if non-MS clients (like rdesktop) are able to work with it, though.
dharma1 10y ago
OpenGL doesn't work with RDP - it's an issue for using some apps remotely. https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/198132-OpenGL-and-Microsoft-Remote-Desktop https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/1981...
- Aldo_MX 10y ago
  I remember reading a while ago about a virtual GPU with RemoteFx[1], I have no idea how it works though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX
  - unprepare 10y ago
    RemoteFX works really good, but it only works on specific hardware iirc
    - dharma1 10y ago
      Had never heard of RemoteFX before, thanks. Looks like it works on almost any new GPUs now. Question - Could I use hyper-V and RemoteFX to do something different - enable CUDA/GPU passthrough from a Windows host to a Linux VM? I'd like to do some deep learning training on my Windows GPU machine without dual booting into Linux.
      - unprepare 10y ago
        you need a CPU that supports VT-IO (intel, not sure of teh AMD version) then you can passthrough hardware directly into a VM, theres some tricks and workarounds to it depending on your hypervisor/main OS
      - Nullabillity 10y ago
        Xen or KVM can help you do the reverse.
thedaemon 10y ago
I use Terminals https://terminals.codeplex.com/ https://terminals.codeplex.com/ for all my RDP sessions and some SSH sessions as well. It's very useful.
- malnourish 10y ago
  Similarly I, and most people at my company, use mremmote ng http://www.mremoteng.org/ http://www.mremoteng.org/
mandeepj 10y ago
Don't you need a static IP for using RDP? Not everyone have a static IP
bluedino 10y ago
You can't share the screen with RDP, and you have to VPN in, or port forward with NAT...
sixothree 10y ago
And Remote Desktop Connection Manager...

RDP ? Why doesn't anyone use the official protocol for remote desktop on Windows ? It's fast. I say this as a unix dev that likes to RDP into a Windows box to test stuff.

detaro 10y ago

Many people don't think of RDP because it isn't great for support-type jobs: you can't share the screen with the local user. But for administrative purposes where that is not required it is a good way to go.

dsp1234 10y ago
That's what "Window Remote Assistance"[0] is for. "By following a few steps, you can invite someone to connect to your computer. After he or she is connected, that person can view your computer screen and chat with you about what you both see. With your permission, your helper can even use his or her own mouse and keyboard to control your computer and show you how to fix a problem." [0] - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-windows-remote-assistance http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-is-windows-r...
- unprepare 10y ago
  yeah cuz i want to spend half an hour explaining how to send an invite to the CEO who cant connect to his email 5 minutes before a critical meeting.... in other words, teamviewer requires 0 user interaction
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    If you can create scripts that do that for you.... If it's a domain computer you don't even need that.
    - unprepare 10y ago
      scripts are fallible, especially when the user is in another country with no access to the DC servers is one thing, user support is another animal.

pat_space 10y ago

windows 10 home doesn't include RDP

Aldo_MX 10y ago
the last time I checked it included the client, anyway, you usually don't mount a server with windows home.
- drdaeman 10y ago
  The server is present in Home editions as well, although the access is invite-only. It can be found under the "Remote Assistance" name (msra.exe). I'm not sure if non-MS clients (like rdesktop) are able to work with it, though.

dharma1 10y ago

OpenGL doesn't work with RDP - it's an issue for using some apps remotely. https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/198132-OpenGL-and-Microsoft-Remote-Desktop https://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/showthread.php/1981...

Aldo_MX 10y ago
I remember reading a while ago about a virtual GPU with RemoteFx[1], I have no idea how it works though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RemoteFX
- unprepare 10y ago
  RemoteFX works really good, but it only works on specific hardware iirc
  - dharma1 10y ago
    Had never heard of RemoteFX before, thanks. Looks like it works on almost any new GPUs now. Question - Could I use hyper-V and RemoteFX to do something different - enable CUDA/GPU passthrough from a Windows host to a Linux VM? I'd like to do some deep learning training on my Windows GPU machine without dual booting into Linux.
    - unprepare 10y ago
      you need a CPU that supports VT-IO (intel, not sure of teh AMD version) then you can passthrough hardware directly into a VM, theres some tricks and workarounds to it depending on your hypervisor/main OS
    - Nullabillity 10y ago
      Xen or KVM can help you do the reverse.

thedaemon 10y ago

I use Terminals https://terminals.codeplex.com/ https://terminals.codeplex.com/ for all my RDP sessions and some SSH sessions as well. It's very useful.

malnourish 10y ago
Similarly I, and most people at my company, use mremmote ng http://www.mremoteng.org/ http://www.mremoteng.org/

mandeepj 10y ago

Don't you need a static IP for using RDP? Not everyone have a static IP

bluedino 10y ago

You can't share the screen with RDP, and you have to VPN in, or port forward with NAT...

sixothree 10y ago

And Remote Desktop Connection Manager...