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Beep Networks

36 points by sinak 10y ago

dplarson 10y ago
They have a datasheet [0] for an "Environmental Monitoring Sensor" which lists a line-of-sight range of 50 miles and 1–3 miles in urban settings. For comparison, Digi's XBee PRO ZigBee wireless modules have a line-of-sight range of 2 miles [1]. I'm a little bit skeptical about the 50 mile range claim (seems too good to be true), but this is an interesting product nonetheless. [0]: http://www.beepnetworks.com/img/datasheet.pdf http://www.beepnetworks.com/img/datasheet.pdf [1]: http://www.digi.com/products/xbee-rf-solutions/rf-modules/xbee-zigbee#specifications http://www.digi.com/products/xbee-rf-solutions/rf-modules/xb...
- rvloock 10y ago
  Is it possible that they just use a LoRa radio? The frequency seems to match and the claimed ranges make me think in that direction.
  - mbrock 10y ago
    https://medium.com/@dconrad/how-new-long-range-radios-will-change-the-internet-of-things-ed8e6b5e367f https://medium.com/@dconrad/how-new-long-range-radios-will-c... Post by Beep Networks cofounder. > Our team at Beep Networks is now working with LoRa radios here in San Francisco, and we’re getting signals through at over a mile of range. That’s in the city, through walls, with a tiny battery-powered sensor device — no towers or giant antennas involved. We know folks who are getting 10 miles in every direction when they put these radios on towers in rural areas, where there’s less interference.
pmontra 10y ago
The range of operating temperature is undefined in the datasheet. Would that work outdoors in winter or in direct sunlight? Think Alaska or the tropics. Humidity is pretty important too.
beardicus 10y ago
As others mentioned, this is using LoRaWAN radios, which are typically stated as having a range of around ten miles. Here is a group that's trying to build up a worldwide LoRa network that's free and open: https://thethingsnetwork.org/ https://thethingsnetwork.org/
jlgaddis 10y ago
These are transmitters and the signals they send out have to be received somewhere. Where are the receivers, how much do they cost, and where would one get started building out the "receiving side" of one of these networks?
zump 10y ago
So, it's a box?

36 points by sinak 10y ago

They have a datasheet [0] for an "Environmental Monitoring Sensor" which lists a line-of-sight range of 50 miles and 1–3 miles in urban settings. For comparison, Digi's XBee PRO ZigBee wireless modules have a line-of-sight range of 2 miles [1]. I'm a little bit skeptical about the 50 mile range claim (seems too good to be true), but this is an interesting product nonetheless. [0]: http://www.beepnetworks.com/img/datasheet.pdf http://www.beepnetworks.com/img/datasheet.pdf [1]: http://www.digi.com/products/xbee-rf-solutions/rf-modules/xbee-zigbee#specifications http://www.digi.com/products/xbee-rf-solutions/rf-modules/xb...

rvloock 10y ago
Is it possible that they just use a LoRa radio? The frequency seems to match and the claimed ranges make me think in that direction.
- mbrock 10y ago
  https://medium.com/@dconrad/how-new-long-range-radios-will-change-the-internet-of-things-ed8e6b5e367f https://medium.com/@dconrad/how-new-long-range-radios-will-c... Post by Beep Networks cofounder. > Our team at Beep Networks is now working with LoRa radios here in San Francisco, and we’re getting signals through at over a mile of range. That’s in the city, through walls, with a tiny battery-powered sensor device — no towers or giant antennas involved. We know folks who are getting 10 miles in every direction when they put these radios on towers in rural areas, where there’s less interference.

pmontra 10y ago

The range of operating temperature is undefined in the datasheet. Would that work outdoors in winter or in direct sunlight? Think Alaska or the tropics. Humidity is pretty important too.

beardicus 10y ago

As others mentioned, this is using LoRaWAN radios, which are typically stated as having a range of around ten miles. Here is a group that's trying to build up a worldwide LoRa network that's free and open: https://thethingsnetwork.org/ https://thethingsnetwork.org/

jlgaddis 10y ago

These are transmitters and the signals they send out have to be received somewhere. Where are the receivers, how much do they cost, and where would one get started building out the "receiving side" of one of these networks?

zump 10y ago

So, it's a box?