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It's still there, the signal-to-noise radio is much, much worse though.

by Bjartr 10y ago

gambiting 10y ago
Yeah, article like this one would exist, but with a caption "You wouldn't believe 10 ways this guy invented to destroy the earth! Number 6 will blow your mind!" and then the article is split in 100 pages just to get more clicks.
- stcredzero 10y ago
  There were far more interesting USENET articles than this op in rec.arts.sf.science. There were back of the envelope calcs by researchers involving hypothetical attempts by humanity to boil the biosphere using decades worth of global industrial output to seen the entire planet with a grid of hydrogen bombs. This one is a 1+ steps removed rip-off of those discussions.
TeMPOraL 10y ago
Unfortunately, the increasing noise is rapidly pushing interesting information to below Shannon limit.
- pnathan 10y ago
  Hmmm. I wonder how difficult it'd be to spider the web and index all the pages with a certain density of useful information. There's ole entropy, but we also have a priori knowledge of certain bits of information that suggest that useful information in the content is nil. E.g., anything that is a listicle.
syngrog66 10y ago
Your comment suggested a new tool/feature to me: what if we had something like Google, except it added the additional constraint where it only led you to sites/pages that were in that old retro lean static simple HTML style. The graph of text pages, perhaps with embedded images, version of the web. Ideally it would be just an add-on feature to an existing web search engine like Google. But if you wanted to boot it up faster you could perhaps meta-spider/index on top of them, where your wrapper site added this constraint as a filter. I'd love to be able to explore a curated web subset that was just text and images, no bandwidth bloat, no obvious SEO abusers, no pirated content farms, no ads, no spyware, no audio, no (automatically streaming/playing) video, etc.
- Bjartr 10y ago
  >Your comment suggested a new tool/feature to me: what if we had something like Google, except it added the additional constraint where it only led you to sites/pages that were in that old retro lean static simple HTML style. The graph of text pages, perhaps with embedded images, version of the web. Sometimes when looking for knowledge on Google and can only find blogspam, if the information isn't particularly volatile over time, e.g. information about effective exercises for various purposes, then I've got a trick that sometimes helps: Use google's search tools to limit the results to a custom range of time, and only specify the end date as something like 2002. You end up getting just pre-web-2.0 stuff.
  - syngrog66 10y ago
    nice suggestion! I'll try that

It's still there, the signal-to-noise radio is much, much worse though.

by Bjartr 10y ago

It's still there, the signal-to-noise radio is much, much worse though.

Yeah, article like this one would exist, but with a caption "You wouldn't believe 10 ways this guy invented to destroy the earth! Number 6 will blow your mind!" and then the article is split in 100 pages just to get more clicks.

stcredzero 10y ago
There were far more interesting USENET articles than this op in rec.arts.sf.science. There were back of the envelope calcs by researchers involving hypothetical attempts by humanity to boil the biosphere using decades worth of global industrial output to seen the entire planet with a grid of hydrogen bombs. This one is a 1+ steps removed rip-off of those discussions.

TeMPOraL 10y ago

Unfortunately, the increasing noise is rapidly pushing interesting information to below Shannon limit.

pnathan 10y ago
Hmmm. I wonder how difficult it'd be to spider the web and index all the pages with a certain density of useful information. There's ole entropy, but we also have a priori knowledge of certain bits of information that suggest that useful information in the content is nil. E.g., anything that is a listicle.

syngrog66 10y ago

Your comment suggested a new tool/feature to me: what if we had something like Google, except it added the additional constraint where it only led you to sites/pages that were in that old retro lean static simple HTML style. The graph of text pages, perhaps with embedded images, version of the web. Ideally it would be just an add-on feature to an existing web search engine like Google. But if you wanted to boot it up faster you could perhaps meta-spider/index on top of them, where your wrapper site added this constraint as a filter. I'd love to be able to explore a curated web subset that was just text and images, no bandwidth bloat, no obvious SEO abusers, no pirated content farms, no ads, no spyware, no audio, no (automatically streaming/playing) video, etc.

Bjartr 10y ago
>Your comment suggested a new tool/feature to me: what if we had something like Google, except it added the additional constraint where it only led you to sites/pages that were in that old retro lean static simple HTML style. The graph of text pages, perhaps with embedded images, version of the web. Sometimes when looking for knowledge on Google and can only find blogspam, if the information isn't particularly volatile over time, e.g. information about effective exercises for various purposes, then I've got a trick that sometimes helps: Use google's search tools to limit the results to a custom range of time, and only specify the end date as something like 2002. You end up getting just pre-web-2.0 stuff.
- syngrog66 10y ago
  nice suggestion! I'll try that