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I'd love to hear more. Where you married? What was it like for you spouse? If not, what was the dating scene like in 82? Did you travel around any? What ar

I'd love to hear more. Where you married? What was it like for you spouse? If not, what was the dating scene like in 82? Did you travel around any? What are the most interesting parts of the country? Did you ever make it to Mecca? How good are you at recognizing family names and power connections? Did that come with time? How did people in different parts of the country view each other? I just returned from a week in Jeddah and Riyadh. Here are some photos from a fancy jail. Housing some of the 5000 terrorist/jihadists in a re-integration program. Think about that, the jihadists get the nice jail, because they are rehabilitatable: http://www.daviddegner.com/albums/terrorist-rehab-in-saudi-arabia/ http://www.daviddegner.com/albums/terrorist-rehab-in-saudi-a...

arethuza 10y ago
Someone a few weeks back recommended Inside The Kingdom in a reply to a comment of mine - I can strongly recommend it: http://www.robertlacey.com/?q=book/inside-kingdom http://www.robertlacey.com/?q=book/inside-kingdom It describes the length the Saudi's go to in rehabilitating jihadists - including getting them married!
yardie 10y ago
Think about that, the jihadists get the nice jail, because they are rehabilitatable This is infinitely more humane than the current US strategy of drone strikes, "kills terrorists" never mind the collateral damage and disruption it causes. Hell our DOC could learn a few things. Here, if you are ever once a criminal, you're a criminal for life.
- justratsinacoat 10y ago
  I quite agree with you that the Saudis' approach here is much less horrible! >Here, if you are ever once a criminal, you're a criminal for life OTOH, recidivism for sorcery must be pretty low over in the Kingdom, since the punishment for this crime (?) is beheading (!).
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    The fact that anybody would ever get convicted for sorcery tells you all you need to know.
advertising 10y ago
No dating scene whatsoever haha. Restaurants all segregated family / single males. No movie theatres. Entire country dry no alcohol. The most amusing of all would be safe ways and grocery stores would turn into night club entrances as all the women would be shopping so guys would drive by the entrance and hold up signs with their phone numbers on them. So front of Safeway on a weekend night would be all these sports cars, benz's Etc. Too funny. Jeddah a lot more lax than Riyadh. Can't get into Mecca unless you're Muslim. We took a wrong turn on a road trip one time and were stopped and made to turn around. Check points outside every city. If you were a female and didn't have written consent from your husband you weren't allowed to leave the city.

arethuza 10y ago

Someone a few weeks back recommended Inside The Kingdom in a reply to a comment of mine - I can strongly recommend it: http://www.robertlacey.com/?q=book/inside-kingdom http://www.robertlacey.com/?q=book/inside-kingdom It describes the length the Saudi's go to in rehabilitating jihadists - including getting them married!

yardie 10y ago

Think about that, the jihadists get the nice jail, because they are rehabilitatable This is infinitely more humane than the current US strategy of drone strikes, "kills terrorists" never mind the collateral damage and disruption it causes. Hell our DOC could learn a few things. Here, if you are ever once a criminal, you're a criminal for life.

justratsinacoat 10y ago
I quite agree with you that the Saudis' approach here is much less horrible! >Here, if you are ever once a criminal, you're a criminal for life OTOH, recidivism for sorcery must be pretty low over in the Kingdom, since the punishment for this crime (?) is beheading (!).
- jacquesm 10y ago
  The fact that anybody would ever get convicted for sorcery tells you all you need to know.

advertising 10y ago

No dating scene whatsoever haha. Restaurants all segregated family / single males. No movie theatres. Entire country dry no alcohol. The most amusing of all would be safe ways and grocery stores would turn into night club entrances as all the women would be shopping so guys would drive by the entrance and hold up signs with their phone numbers on them. So front of Safeway on a weekend night would be all these sports cars, benz's Etc. Too funny. Jeddah a lot more lax than Riyadh. Can't get into Mecca unless you're Muslim. We took a wrong turn on a road trip one time and were stopped and made to turn around. Check points outside every city. If you were a female and didn't have written consent from your husband you weren't allowed to leave the city.