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Maybe I'm biased but it seems like Sublime lost its huge margin in the "editor race". Occasionally I try to use Sublime, but the plugins are always lacking. For
by dvirsky 10y ago
Maybe I'm biased but it seems like Sublime lost its huge margin in the "editor race". Occasionally I try to use Sublime, but the plugins are always lacking. For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins (C, Go, Python), and I'm more productive with it although it lacks some features in the editor itself. And it doesn't feel slower even though it's written in JS. Plus it's open source.
I hope the Sublime author will release it as open source, at least in some IntelliJ style freemium model. That might give it back the boost it needs.
- imron 10y ago> For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins I bet the Sublime spell-check plugin doesn't send your entire file to a third-party server over plain http.
- ensiferum 10y agoDoes VSCode have a plugin for C++ code completion yet? There are several for ST.
- stinos 10y agohttps://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2016/03/31/cc-extension-for-visual-studio-code/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2016/03/31/cc-extens... and afaik it has been updated just last week with new features
- dagw 10y agoThey have at least two
- dvirsky 10y agoIt has an excellent one developed by MS people, and a few indie ones, which I used up until a couple of weeks ago, when the MS plugin started working properly on Linux. You'll need to install the dotnet cli stuff, but they provide official packages for Linux as well, so it wasn't an issue.
- tiplus 10y agoWhy does VSCode need a 'Pricacy Statement' (Help menu) which explains how Microsoft shares personal data? I get that it was written by MS, but why would I want a code editor that calls home? Or better ask does it send user/system data back to MS? this cfg entry: // Enable usage data and errors to be sent to Microsoft. "telemetry.enableTelemetry": true,
- dvirsky 10y agothe privacy statement is generic to the visual studio family of products I guess. they state they collect my name but VScode doesn't know my name. As long as telemetry is what's being collected, and I can disable it (and fork VScode if not), I'm good with it. EDIT: Also, other editors phone home as well. IntelliJ certainly does, and I'm pretty sure Sublime as well.
- z3t4 10y ago> web pages you visit, and the search terms you enter. https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229 https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/dn948229
- dvirsky 10y agoit's a bit unclear but in the context of the whole document, it seems like they mean web pages and searches on their website, which is both legit and trivial. What worries me a bit is the fact that it's unclear.
- throwaway6436 10y agoMan, the FUD in this thread. Shill much? Is freemium the new EEE? How do you expect the man to make money?
- dvirsky 10y agoJetbrains seem to be making quite a lot of money from the IDEA series. Shill, really? I have nothing against Sublime charging money, the only reason I'm not buying it is that it's not a good enough editor (for me!). What I'm saying is that if he opens at least some of Sublime it might help make it a better editor and advance faster with the help of a community. It certainly beats Sublime becoming irrelevant and dying eventually, which I really hope it won't. I'd really prefer using sublime, but I'm simply using the best tool (BTW Sublime is still a better editor, no plugins installed on either). Open source is a plus for me, not a must.
- throwaway6436 10y agoST becoming open-source is one thing, making it freemium another. I was talking about the latter. Does freemium really work at all for anyone? Gets you new users quickly but then 1 in 10,000 converts. This works for established companies as they can weather the freeloaders with piles of cash from other parts of the business. Or in the case of VC-backed companies, from the money fountain (better not ask Spotify about that though). I just can't see how a small company depending on a single product would benefit from this model.
- dvirsky 10y agoFor IDEs there's a clear path here - for a company, even a small startup, <$100 per developer is really no biggie, even if no private person would pay that. I used to pay for PyCharm (via my employer) when I worked mainly in Python because I needed the extra features. BTW Sublime are more or less Freemium right now, even worse - you don't HAVE to pay, you just get those annoying messages. It's practically a donation model right now.