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If you hire David Duke to write about race relations you don't have to tell him what to write. You hire David Duke because you know exactly what you are gettin

If you hire David Duke to write about race relations you don't have to tell him what to write. You hire David Duke because you know exactly what you are getting.

slg 10y ago
You are really equating every journalist working for a mainstream media company with the former head of the KKK? I'm not sure how I should even respond to crazy allegations like that. This has been one of the annoying side effects of Snowden. Suddenly one conspiracy theory proved to be true, so now some people think that any conspiracy theory has a chance to be true. Soon we end up with people suggesting that tens of thousands of journalists in American are hand picked by the "masters" solely to "disseminate propaganda".
- StanislavPetrov 10y ago
  >You are really equating every journalist working for a mainstream media company with the former head of the KKK? I'm not sure how I should even respond to crazy allegations like that. Perhaps the concept of an analogy is alien to your world, so I'll try to make it simpler for you. If you hire someone whose views are well known to write for you, you have a pretty good idea of knowing what you are going to get without having to offer specific instructions. If you hire Robert Kagan to write a foreign policy column in your newspaper, you don't have to send him a secret message urging him to back an invasion. He already backs every invasion. Understand? As far as your vapid conjecture about conspiracy theories go, the media is literally littered with writers who have either been directly paid, or who stand to gain (financially and otherwise) for endorsing certain positions. These are not conspiracies, its standard practice. Whether these media pundits are paid by the White House to endorse their policies: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-wi... Or secretly instructing retired military "analysts" on news networks on how to shape the narrative: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html And when you don't parrot the party line, they get rid of you, like they did to Phil Donahue when he was critical of the Iraq invasion: http://billmoyers.com/2013/03/25/the-day-that-tv-news-died/ http://billmoyers.com/2013/03/25/the-day-that-tv-news-died/ Or when government officials limit press access to only those reporters who are willing to offer the official narrative: http://www.ap.org/Content/AP-In-The-News/2013/News-media-protest-White-House-press-access-limits http://www.ap.org/Content/AP-In-The-News/2013/News-media-pro... In short, you are delusional or woefully under informed if you don't think that the media narrative is controlled and shaped by the powerful interests that run this country.
  - jflatow 10y ago
    And when what's being said doesn't fit the media narrative, they just edit it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SUQ1qtdb0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SUQ1qtdb0
  - nickpsecurity 10y ago
    Good list. Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent has a good presentation on this stuff. Just gotta filter out... maybe do a whole edit for others... all his philosophical stuff to leave just the tactics and evidence of media manipulation. Those are the real gold of the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa6NflkW3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa6NflkW3Y

If you hire David Duke to write about race relations you don't have to tell him what to write. You hire David Duke because you know exactly what you are getting.

slg 10y ago

You are really equating every journalist working for a mainstream media company with the former head of the KKK? I'm not sure how I should even respond to crazy allegations like that. This has been one of the annoying side effects of Snowden. Suddenly one conspiracy theory proved to be true, so now some people think that any conspiracy theory has a chance to be true. Soon we end up with people suggesting that tens of thousands of journalists in American are hand picked by the "masters" solely to "disseminate propaganda".

StanislavPetrov 10y ago
>You are really equating every journalist working for a mainstream media company with the former head of the KKK? I'm not sure how I should even respond to crazy allegations like that. Perhaps the concept of an analogy is alien to your world, so I'll try to make it simpler for you. If you hire someone whose views are well known to write for you, you have a pretty good idea of knowing what you are going to get without having to offer specific instructions. If you hire Robert Kagan to write a foreign policy column in your newspaper, you don't have to send him a secret message urging him to back an invasion. He already backs every invasion. Understand? As far as your vapid conjecture about conspiracy theories go, the media is literally littered with writers who have either been directly paid, or who stand to gain (financially and otherwise) for endorsing certain positions. These are not conspiracies, its standard practice. Whether these media pundits are paid by the White House to endorse their policies: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-wi... Or secretly instructing retired military "analysts" on news networks on how to shape the narrative: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html And when you don't parrot the party line, they get rid of you, like they did to Phil Donahue when he was critical of the Iraq invasion: http://billmoyers.com/2013/03/25/the-day-that-tv-news-died/ http://billmoyers.com/2013/03/25/the-day-that-tv-news-died/ Or when government officials limit press access to only those reporters who are willing to offer the official narrative: http://www.ap.org/Content/AP-In-The-News/2013/News-media-protest-White-House-press-access-limits http://www.ap.org/Content/AP-In-The-News/2013/News-media-pro... In short, you are delusional or woefully under informed if you don't think that the media narrative is controlled and shaped by the powerful interests that run this country.
- jflatow 10y ago
  And when what's being said doesn't fit the media narrative, they just edit it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SUQ1qtdb0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1SUQ1qtdb0
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  Good list. Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent has a good presentation on this stuff. Just gotta filter out... maybe do a whole edit for others... all his philosophical stuff to leave just the tactics and evidence of media manipulation. Those are the real gold of the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa6NflkW3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHa6NflkW3Y