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Sometimes yes, but luckily I have taken the time to understand the arguments so that I can rebut them and counter rebut their rebuttals. Almost everyone around

Sometimes yes, but luckily I have taken the time to understand the arguments so that I can rebut them and counter rebut their rebuttals. Almost everyone around now makes off the cuff jokes about my paranoia, but in serious discussion they mostly understand now. For me, as former military, I always try to bring it back to the Constitution and the rule of law, which tends to have more weight with most Americans than you might expect. Things like this have made me think though, that what I would like to see is a site that takes a controversial topic such as this, and just lays out all the evidence, arguments, counter argument, etc, along with citations and logical analysis to lower the barrier to entry in a way. Come to think of it, I get more pushback on HN than just about anywhere on these topics, which is extremely dissapointing. As a sysadmin, it's part of my job description to be paranoid. Hell, does anyone remember the Snowden file with the title, "we hunt sysadmins"!?

lukeschlather 10y ago
Unfortunately, it's not a website, and you can't presently see it, but I saw an exhibit by the Tactical Tech collective in Berlin called Nervous Systems. It was a really accessible discussion of these issues. It was also especially effective because much of it was more artistic and presented with less commentary, allowing the viewer/reader/listener to draw their own conclusions. If you know a space which can host them, and you can raise the cash, I'd recommend getting them to come to your locale and invite your friends. https://tacticaltech.org/projects/nervoussystems https://tacticaltech.org/projects/nervoussystems
pdkl95 10y ago
> site that takes a controversial topic such as this, and just lays out all the evidence I would also like that site. Recently I've been thinking about another way to educate people about these issues: a video game that simulates practical examples of data security and privacy. Interactive games offer different tools[1] to the storyteller, and I like the idea of letting people discover concepts on their own. Unfortunately, a project like this is way outside my area of expertise. /sigh/ [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhrKPLDCyY&list=PLJA_jUddXvY4f8-eoY0mg7gzXoqhBYN6y&index=4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhrKPLDCyY&list=PLJA_jUddXv...

lukeschlather 10y ago

Unfortunately, it's not a website, and you can't presently see it, but I saw an exhibit by the Tactical Tech collective in Berlin called Nervous Systems. It was a really accessible discussion of these issues. It was also especially effective because much of it was more artistic and presented with less commentary, allowing the viewer/reader/listener to draw their own conclusions. If you know a space which can host them, and you can raise the cash, I'd recommend getting them to come to your locale and invite your friends. https://tacticaltech.org/projects/nervoussystems https://tacticaltech.org/projects/nervoussystems

pdkl95 10y ago

> site that takes a controversial topic such as this, and just lays out all the evidence I would also like that site. Recently I've been thinking about another way to educate people about these issues: a video game that simulates practical examples of data security and privacy. Interactive games offer different tools[1] to the storyteller, and I like the idea of letting people discover concepts on their own. Unfortunately, a project like this is way outside my area of expertise. /sigh/ [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhrKPLDCyY&list=PLJA_jUddXvY4f8-eoY0mg7gzXoqhBYN6y&index=4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhrKPLDCyY&list=PLJA_jUddXv...