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> no I mean that flash is a proprietary runtime that can change at the whim of a company, Are you very sure that if JS and HTML5 authoring tools became good en

> no I mean that flash is a proprietary runtime that can change at the whim of a company, Are you very sure that if JS and HTML5 authoring tools became good enough (as Flash is) to threaten Apple's business in selling and fully controlling iPhone and iPad apps, that they wouldn't or couldn't change compatibility at a whim? Running on iPhone is the one major advantage this has. (Not being an open platform... It's anything but an advantage when it won't even run on IE in the foreseeable future.)

philwelch 17y ago
As long as the JS/HTML runtime can guarantee good performance, I can't see Apple complaining. Apple isn't going after Flash because it competes with their app store, Apple's going after Flash because it's a performance dog with near-impossible touchscreen usability and little to no ability for Apple to create a better runtime for.
daleharvey 17y ago
I am pretty sure since apple are one of a few companies really pushing html5 and javascript right now, the html5 support for mobile webkit is pretty top notch. I dont undestand why people think the appstore is apples business, they havent made any money from the appstore, they do however make an awful lot of money selling hardware, but this is for another thread.
- WilliamLP 17y ago
  > I dont undestand why people think the appstore is apples business, They sure seem fiercely intent on having total control over app developers on the platform though, don't they? Currently JS and HTML5 has very close to zero demonstrated potential to be a viable alternative to creating and distributing the kind of apps that are on the appstore. Again, are you really sure that if it matures to the point where this isn't true any more, Apple wouldn't do something about it? If you are sure, you're naive. Regardless of Apple's intentions (you can think they're Good Samaritans who want to protect users from poorly performing Flash apps if you wish), if there's one thing they've shown is that they really really want total control in that particular space.

philwelch 17y ago

As long as the JS/HTML runtime can guarantee good performance, I can't see Apple complaining. Apple isn't going after Flash because it competes with their app store, Apple's going after Flash because it's a performance dog with near-impossible touchscreen usability and little to no ability for Apple to create a better runtime for.

daleharvey 17y ago

I am pretty sure since apple are one of a few companies really pushing html5 and javascript right now, the html5 support for mobile webkit is pretty top notch. I dont undestand why people think the appstore is apples business, they havent made any money from the appstore, they do however make an awful lot of money selling hardware, but this is for another thread.

WilliamLP 17y ago
> I dont undestand why people think the appstore is apples business, They sure seem fiercely intent on having total control over app developers on the platform though, don't they? Currently JS and HTML5 has very close to zero demonstrated potential to be a viable alternative to creating and distributing the kind of apps that are on the appstore. Again, are you really sure that if it matures to the point where this isn't true any more, Apple wouldn't do something about it? If you are sure, you're naive. Regardless of Apple's intentions (you can think they're Good Samaritans who want to protect users from poorly performing Flash apps if you wish), if there's one thing they've shown is that they really really want total control in that particular space.