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Who will create the lab? Won't he be the most powerful ? Every oligarch(if there are many of them, like there were many kings in medieval Europe) would need to

Who will create the lab? Won't he be the most powerful ? Every oligarch(if there are many of them, like there were many kings in medieval Europe) would need to have a lab. It will be specialized. Just like factories today are specialized. Today, one company might use factory to make phones, another one to make clothing etc. They all use different devices for different products. Can't these people genetically modify themself to not care about sex slaves (or even consumption, so no worker-slaves needed) ? Maybe scientists-slaves? That's equivalent to suicide. You could do something similar today to eliminate sexual or other desires, but people aren't doing it. The truth(by my simple/short unscientific observation) is that most people don't give a fuck at all about anything other than themself so why should the lab-designer care about them (and share his tech)? Care about who? Other oligarchs? If there are other oligarchs(which is not necessary, since it could be one king and few thousand people below him), then he would receive benefits from them and vice versa. What happens when you build you lab/fix-diseases and don't want to share them with the masses (you don't want their $$)(you just want to share with other lab-designers/scientists/doctors etc). They WILL try kill you. How to escape this ? Kill them first? Don't share at all (you supposedly want to share with other lab-builders)? Who will try to kill them? Masses or other oligarchs? I think, the lab creator WILL have to also build crazy weapons to protect himself from "the others"? They just won't accept no for an answer. What others? Other oligarchs with different labs? So you have to create your weapons first, then build the lab (or enslave others by using weapons to build the lab for you). This is true. It could be a hierarchy where the top dog (king) shares some wealth with the lower ranked. Kinda like in medieval Europe. Most robots and lab-grown humans would be like serfs and those closest to the king would get all the benefits and practically unlimited wealth.

ddorian43 10y ago
That's equivalent to suicide. You could do something similar today to eliminate sexual or other desires, but people aren't doing it. I assumed they can replicate at the lab. Care about who? Other oligarchs? If there are other oligarchs(which is not necessary, since it could be one king and few thousand people below him), then he would receive benefits from them and vice versa. Most people don't care about pushing human(ity) further, just want the current entertainment flavor of the generation. Why should the lab-creator care about them ? Just because someone pays for your job, doesn't mean it should exist, ex: gossip magazines. And when you have no work/purpose, why should you exist ? To consume finite resources? He may think the same thing for other oligarchs. Who will try to kill them? Masses or other oligarchs? If you build a life-extension (or a human backup+restore) lab you'll be at war with whoever you don't want to share. What others? Other oligarchs with different labs? 2 main ways to change the world would be: Kill those who oppose you, or build better tech and don't save them (but those will better weapons will kill you first). The more you automate and advance, the easier it would be to not need(and pursuing of not needing) other oligarch/normal sheeple.

ddorian43 10y ago

That's equivalent to suicide. You could do something similar today to eliminate sexual or other desires, but people aren't doing it. I assumed they can replicate at the lab. Care about who? Other oligarchs? If there are other oligarchs(which is not necessary, since it could be one king and few thousand people below him), then he would receive benefits from them and vice versa. Most people don't care about pushing human(ity) further, just want the current entertainment flavor of the generation. Why should the lab-creator care about them ? Just because someone pays for your job, doesn't mean it should exist, ex: gossip magazines. And when you have no work/purpose, why should you exist ? To consume finite resources? He may think the same thing for other oligarchs. Who will try to kill them? Masses or other oligarchs? If you build a life-extension (or a human backup+restore) lab you'll be at war with whoever you don't want to share. What others? Other oligarchs with different labs? 2 main ways to change the world would be: Kill those who oppose you, or build better tech and don't save them (but those will better weapons will kill you first). The more you automate and advance, the easier it would be to not need(and pursuing of not needing) other oligarch/normal sheeple.