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Do we even need those low quality, low value "desktop" users? Why should everyone else suffer in order to make things tiny bit easier for an average Joe? Syste
by sklogic 10y ago
Do we even need those low quality, low value "desktop" users? Why should everyone else suffer in order to make things tiny bit easier for an average Joe?
Systemd is ill-designed throughout, and all of its design decisions do not have any place in Unix world. They're solving the silly desktop "issues" (note the quotes again - I do not believe any of this is a genuine issue at all) always in the most retarded and convoluted way possible.
- matthewmacleod 10y agoI think you're maybe overreacting. It's worth considering that far from being targeted only at desktops, systemd seems to be pretty useful in server installs – the CoreOS ecosystem is a good example of where it works well. I do get the impression that systemd isn't particularly well-designed, in that it feels like it would be equally possible to implement a more modular solution with better-defined and -designed APIs, such that the problems it solves could be handled collaboratively across the whole UNIX platform. I get the impression that this would make many people happier. I do reject your characterisation problems as 'silly desktop issues' however – and it's shallow arguments like that, rather than genuine objections to the implementation of systemd that make the discussion so unconstructive.
- sklogic 10y agoGnome not cleaning up after itself is a silly issue indeed. And especially not worthy of modifying a 40 years old policy, with suggestions like this making it even more silly and more non-issue. A far more reasonable remedy to such a problem would have been to stop using Gnome, KDE and all the similar crap once and for all.