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Is the app open sourced? any link?

privong 10y ago
> Is the app open sourced? any link? I'm guessing not, since they currently seem to be only letting authorized beta testers use it. For what it's worth, there haven't been any blog posts since Feb 2015[0], so I'm not sure how active the project is? [0] http://blog.crayfis.io/ http://blog.crayfis.io/
- cshimmin 10y ago
  We're here! Unfortunately I'm terrible at social media and especially blogging, so from the outside we must seem pretty dead. See my response to GP, but basically we've pumped the brakes a bit after a small initial beta roll-out in order to ensure we are accurately modeling the detector response to muons. This is essential to ensure we're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater when deciding which data to keep (i.e. upload to the server). Since we scan HD video at ~30fps to look for the cosmic ray signatures, we have to very aggressively throw away uninteresting data in order to keep the data rates reasonable. If anyone here is really interested in giving the beta test a go (android only for now), feel free to email me directly (look elsewhere in the thread for my address). It would be good to hear some feedback from the pro hackers here on hn :)
cshimmin 10y ago
Unfortunately not open sourced (yet). The main reason is because we're physicists, not web security experts (although I do have some background in this). I was afraid that if we open source the code and make the protocol way too obvious, the bar will be just too low for some troll to spam our data acquisition servers, making it hard for us to do science. So for now we're kind of relying on good-old "security through obscurity". In the future we hope to harden the online system further, and eventually open source the code for both the android/iOS apps, as well as the online website which functions as a high-throughput distributed DAQ with online analytics.
- privong 10y ago
  Have you thought about trying to partner with someone to do a Google Summer of Code (or something similar) for this? It seems specific and targeted enough that it might have a chance of getting support.
  - cshimmin 10y ago
    That's a really cool idea, I don't think we've even considered this before. If you have information about how to get this kind of thing going, please get in touch! (My email is my hn username at cern.ch)
    - privong 10y ago
      I've not been involved with SoC myself, but check out the website: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/ https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/ Unfortunately the deadline for this summer has already passed.

> Is the app open sourced? any link? I'm guessing not, since they currently seem to be only letting authorized beta testers use it. For what it's worth, there haven't been any blog posts since Feb 2015[0], so I'm not sure how active the project is? [0] http://blog.crayfis.io/ http://blog.crayfis.io/

cshimmin 10y ago
We're here! Unfortunately I'm terrible at social media and especially blogging, so from the outside we must seem pretty dead. See my response to GP, but basically we've pumped the brakes a bit after a small initial beta roll-out in order to ensure we are accurately modeling the detector response to muons. This is essential to ensure we're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater when deciding which data to keep (i.e. upload to the server). Since we scan HD video at ~30fps to look for the cosmic ray signatures, we have to very aggressively throw away uninteresting data in order to keep the data rates reasonable. If anyone here is really interested in giving the beta test a go (android only for now), feel free to email me directly (look elsewhere in the thread for my address). It would be good to hear some feedback from the pro hackers here on hn :)

cshimmin 10y ago

Unfortunately not open sourced (yet). The main reason is because we're physicists, not web security experts (although I do have some background in this). I was afraid that if we open source the code and make the protocol way too obvious, the bar will be just too low for some troll to spam our data acquisition servers, making it hard for us to do science. So for now we're kind of relying on good-old "security through obscurity". In the future we hope to harden the online system further, and eventually open source the code for both the android/iOS apps, as well as the online website which functions as a high-throughput distributed DAQ with online analytics.

privong 10y ago
Have you thought about trying to partner with someone to do a Google Summer of Code (or something similar) for this? It seems specific and targeted enough that it might have a chance of getting support.
- cshimmin 10y ago
  That's a really cool idea, I don't think we've even considered this before. If you have information about how to get this kind of thing going, please get in touch! (My email is my hn username at cern.ch)
  - privong 10y ago
    I've not been involved with SoC myself, but check out the website: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/ https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/ Unfortunately the deadline for this summer has already passed.