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> you can't change your face. You can obstruct it enough to confuse OpenCV: https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/ I wonder if this is the future of fash

by osense 10y ago

> you can't change your face. You can obstruct it enough to confuse OpenCV: https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/ I wonder if this is the future of fashion?

beagle3 10y ago
It only confuses viola jones style haar detectors. You'd need different makeup for every detector.
- gravypod 10y ago
  Not to mention that is only for facial recognition. If you want to look at a much better way of tracking people check out CreapyDOL [1]. It works by looking only at wifi data. As he says it "Stalking an entire city on the cheap." Not only this, but if you want to stay in the CV realm you will also need to switch up: * Your stride * Your height * Width of shoulders * How far or if you sway your arms while walking All of those could be used to track an individual. It's not an absolute game, it's a numbers and percentage game. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvxD7p4Suw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvxD7p4Suw
  - icebraining 10y ago
    So, not even the scrambler suit from A Scanner Darkly would work? That's depressing.
drdaeman 10y ago
In some (quite a lot of!) jurisdictions there are already laws that prohibit concealing ones' face. While the laws are against masks, it won't be a big stretch (esp. for a rogue regime with a plenty of corrupt judges at hand) to apply or extend such laws for this sort of make-up as well. All in the name of public safety, of course.
- peteretep 10y ago
  Japanese style health masks
  - Namrog84 10y ago
    That'll only delay the inevitable. Hair. Height. Walking patterns. Stride Length. Each added Criteria helps improve the odds. Oh this masked person waked out of building but they know of 28 people identified in building. So even without identifing your face they only need to build Confidence among a very small subset. Even if you go from building to city or country. They could likely narrow it to high confidence especially if they can actively ID the locations of all others with similar characteristics as you.
Aelinsaar 10y ago
I think the future is just going to be characterized by massive, constant, widespread destruction of video cameras in public.
- jkaunisv1 10y ago
  And maybe the widespread adoption of burqas for everyone?
  - Aelinsaar 10y ago
    A good thermal camera, or maybe just gait recognition might not make that effective. No, break up the cameras for scrap.
  - jobigoud 10y ago
    No because it will be against the law to cover your face. (Burqas in public space are already against the law in France).
stordoff 10y ago
A little off-topic, but the licensing on that page is a mess. Originally: > Strictly no Ad-Trackers. Strictly no Google Analytics. Otherwise attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Doesn't state which version of the license, and all Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike version prohibit additional restrictions. Currently: > As of April 28, 2016 I have revoke the Creative Commons license for these works because of projects like MegaFace. Despite the fact that the CC license is perpetual and cannot meaningfully be revoked.

by osense 10y ago

> you can't change your face. You can obstruct it enough to confuse OpenCV: https://cvdazzle.com/ https://cvdazzle.com/ I wonder if this is the future of fashion?

beagle3 10y ago

It only confuses viola jones style haar detectors. You'd need different makeup for every detector.

gravypod 10y ago
Not to mention that is only for facial recognition. If you want to look at a much better way of tracking people check out CreapyDOL [1]. It works by looking only at wifi data. As he says it "Stalking an entire city on the cheap." Not only this, but if you want to stay in the CV realm you will also need to switch up: * Your stride * Your height * Width of shoulders * How far or if you sway your arms while walking All of those could be used to track an individual. It's not an absolute game, it's a numbers and percentage game. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvxD7p4Suw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvxD7p4Suw
- icebraining 10y ago
  So, not even the scrambler suit from A Scanner Darkly would work? That's depressing.

drdaeman 10y ago

In some (quite a lot of!) jurisdictions there are already laws that prohibit concealing ones' face. While the laws are against masks, it won't be a big stretch (esp. for a rogue regime with a plenty of corrupt judges at hand) to apply or extend such laws for this sort of make-up as well. All in the name of public safety, of course.

peteretep 10y ago
Japanese style health masks
- Namrog84 10y ago
  That'll only delay the inevitable. Hair. Height. Walking patterns. Stride Length. Each added Criteria helps improve the odds. Oh this masked person waked out of building but they know of 28 people identified in building. So even without identifing your face they only need to build Confidence among a very small subset. Even if you go from building to city or country. They could likely narrow it to high confidence especially if they can actively ID the locations of all others with similar characteristics as you.

Aelinsaar 10y ago

I think the future is just going to be characterized by massive, constant, widespread destruction of video cameras in public.

jkaunisv1 10y ago
And maybe the widespread adoption of burqas for everyone?
- Aelinsaar 10y ago
  A good thermal camera, or maybe just gait recognition might not make that effective. No, break up the cameras for scrap.
- jobigoud 10y ago
  No because it will be against the law to cover your face. (Burqas in public space are already against the law in France).

stordoff 10y ago

A little off-topic, but the licensing on that page is a mess. Originally: > Strictly no Ad-Trackers. Strictly no Google Analytics. Otherwise attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Doesn't state which version of the license, and all Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike version prohibit additional restrictions. Currently: > As of April 28, 2016 I have revoke the Creative Commons license for these works because of projects like MegaFace. Despite the fact that the CC license is perpetual and cannot meaningfully be revoked.