People complain about that with Apple too 'these days'. So if the biggest mobile players and one of the biggest web players are bad at design/ux is it just the

People complain about that with Apple too 'these days'. So if the biggest mobile players and one of the biggest web players are bad at design/ux is it just the few people in the world who care about this kind of thing all being on HN or is there some objective measure for this? I'm asking because I don't see it and I know almost no-one who does, then again I am and know mostly hardcore techies (who prefer text only interfaces) or people who do not work in IT and both really do not see it.