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This is admittingly more topical with the Israeli and Jewish side than the Austrian. I would like him to know and acknowledge his cultural background, the same

by ido 10y ago

This is admittingly more topical with the Israeli and Jewish side than the Austrian. I would like him to know and acknowledge his cultural background, the same as I would like him to be able to speak Hebrew (at the very least so he could speak to his grandparents and extended family). And I don't see anything negative in that, there is no limit of having only a single identity. I also don't see what genetics have to with it. Indeed my grandparents had to flee Europe for similarly phrased reasons (being ashkenazi didn't help them at the time) and I find them just as distasteful now as then.

cb18 10y ago
And I don't see anything negative in that Of course there's nothing wrong with that. What I found strange was that you thought he would want to identify with a neighboring political entity(Austria) instead of just as Germanic-European and Ashkenazi-European. Also what I saw occuring was this symptomatic absurdity that occurs from our genuine desire to not want to repeat the mistakes of the past. Which is acting like a migrant from Afghanistan or Syria is the same thing as an immigrant from Austria(!) or even Israel, Askenazim are mostly European. In our fervor to not repeat past mistakes, we are willfully blinding ourselves to the fact that not all people are the same. And the kinds of societies that result when different peoples form societies are very different. Thinking all these muslim migrants are going to somehow become model germans is madness. The sad irony is, who do you think the biggest anti-semites in Europe are today? Muslim migrants and the Muslims already in Europe...
eru 10y ago
> [...] the same as I would like him to be able to speak Hebrew (at the very least so he could speak to his grandparents and extended family). It's a shame Yiddish couldn't take that place that Hebrew got.

by ido 10y ago

cb18 10y ago

And I don't see anything negative in that Of course there's nothing wrong with that. What I found strange was that you thought he would want to identify with a neighboring political entity(Austria) instead of just as Germanic-European and Ashkenazi-European. Also what I saw occuring was this symptomatic absurdity that occurs from our genuine desire to not want to repeat the mistakes of the past. Which is acting like a migrant from Afghanistan or Syria is the same thing as an immigrant from Austria(!) or even Israel, Askenazim are mostly European. In our fervor to not repeat past mistakes, we are willfully blinding ourselves to the fact that not all people are the same. And the kinds of societies that result when different peoples form societies are very different. Thinking all these muslim migrants are going to somehow become model germans is madness. The sad irony is, who do you think the biggest anti-semites in Europe are today? Muslim migrants and the Muslims already in Europe...

eru 10y ago

> [...] the same as I would like him to be able to speak Hebrew (at the very least so he could speak to his grandparents and extended family). It's a shame Yiddish couldn't take that place that Hebrew got.