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The author is missing the point of tolerance, which at it's core is "don't bother other people". Evangelical christians, by definition, bother other people.

• dingo_bat 10y ago
  The problem starts when some people say they're bothered because of other people's actions that are performed within their rights as citizens. For example, people being bothered because of people wanting to own guns, even when those people have no plan or intention of murdering anyone with the gun.
  • vacri 10y ago
    You can be for gun control without taking your argument to people who don't share your opinion. By definition, an evangelist cannot do this - it involves bothering people outside the group.
    • hnamazon123 10y ago
      Gun control by definition affects other people. What?
      • vacri 10y ago
        I am for gun control. I don't lobby any politician for it, and I don't raise the topic anywhere, neither do I give my vote based on the issue. I do engage in conversation about it when it's raised by someone else. Tell me, how am I bothering someone who is minding their own business on the topic?
• hnamazon123 10y ago
  The raison d'être of leftism is literally to bother other people because it gives leftists a feeling of power.
  • smsm42 10y ago
    If you want to compare bothering other people, both left and right is guilty of bothering other people. On the left, we have taxes, gun control, speech control (the PC variety), various financial and labor regulations, etc. On the right we have decency laws and associated speech controls, marriage licenses, drug prohibition, opposition to immigration, etc. Of course, both lists are far from being complete. The ideologies built on not bothering are outside linear left-right spectrum, towards libertarian and further anarchist ideas (depending on how far you are willing to go with that concept).
    • hnamazon123 10y ago
      Yeah I agree except for the immigration thing. That is an international affair and a matter of sovereignty and has nothing to do with personal freedoms. Leftism currently is driving the hardest for authoritarianism. I expect we'll see something similar on the right in about a decade though I'm curious to see what it'll look like considering that it seems like religiousness is on the permanent decline in America.
      • angersock 10y ago
        They hardly have a monopoly. Trump's stated positions on weakening and attacking the press when it suits him are from the same playbook.
        • smsm42 10y ago
          True, though I would not take Trump as a good example of a conservative. He certainly plays hard on some of the conservatives' currently favorite instruments and sings some of their favorite songs, but that doesn't mean he is ideologically one - just that he wants their votes, and they are willing to ignore (not all of them, mind you - there's a sizeable anti-Trump sentiment among the conservatives) his mismatches with their agenda because they perceive the matches are more important.
        • hnamazon123 10y ago