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And that friends is why I went back to iOS. Once again I tried android and discovered that it was about two versions or more behind on the device I purchased.
by drivingmenuts 10y ago
And that friends is why I went back to iOS. Once again I tried android and discovered that it was about two versions or more behind on the device I purchased.
- emsy 10y agoDon't know why you were downvoted. The fact that this topic still exists is a disgrace for Google (and Android users).
- jakub_g 10y agoThe problem is partially on the customer side (and I am part of it): typically new Android is available first (or at all) on newest aka most expensive devices. I don't necessarily need the most expensive device on market and I accept being a bit behind (which usually has an added value of not being a beta tester with a bunch of stupid regressions thrown at you). So I typically buy a one-Android-behind device, with great hardware for half price essentially.
- lake99 10y agoI blame customers too, but for a different reason. I only reward manufacturers for devices that are well-represented on Cyanogenmod. Granted, someone like my mom has no hope of installing Cyanogenmod on her own, given that she knows nothing of Google or Android. But as long as people have friends or family to help them out with technical matters, they only have themselves to blame for devices whose software quickly go stale.
- drivingmenuts 10y ago> But as long as people have friends or family to help them out with technical matters, they only have themselves to blame for devices whose software quickly go stale. That part makes no sense to me. People who don't have the technical skill to deal with upgrading are typically the people least interested in upgrading.
- lake99 10y agoNo, they are not interested enough to care about version upgrades, but they do want to keep running the latest apps and games. This was a real problem until Kitkat came along. These days, app developers seem to be aiming for a minimum of Kitkat, so users who don't upgrade don't suffer as much.
- emsy 10y agoThey also should be interested in case of security updates. If Apples update numbers are true, they somehow manage to get the majority of their users to update to the latest version and this is something Android should aim for too.
- sethammons 10y agoCyanogen went stale on me. If I tried to update, it would not boot. Nexus for the win.
- maxerickson 10y agoWe'll see what happens as the sale to Lenovo takes hold, but Motorola has continued to ship pretty decent lower end devices, with pretty rapid updates. Not the very bottom of the market devices, but they are pretty good for the $200 price point.
- sliverstorm 10y agoRegardless of who's to blame and all that meta conversation, Motorola has not been doing great with the updates these days. The original Moto G was updated to 5.0 something like 9 months after the launch of 5.0. Moto E (2015) was updated from 5.0 to 5.1 and then abandoned. Turbo II got 6.0 a month or two ago. There are almost certainly worse OEMs who never update anything, or update 2 years late, but I would not describe Moto as rapid on updates.
- maxerickson 10y agoI have 6.0 on my 2015 Moto G. Since December.
- sandGorgon 10y agoIt's nothing to do with Android - it has to do with the device you picked up. I'm typing this on a Nexus 6p and I'm rocking beta of Android N. I think if you go with a Nexus (or a Xperia IMHO), you will always be using the latest and greatest version of Android.
- Nullabillity 10y agoWorth mentioning that the Sony SW3 was by far the last Android Wear device to finally get the Marshmallow upgrade, so all isn't great on that front either.
- zepto 10y agoYou seem to be blaming the customer for not understanding the politics of the Android software update fiasco. That is very much Android's problem.
- drivingmenuts 10y agoWhich would be awesome, except that the last Nexus device I got has "the unrecoverable flicker" and they stopped selling the Nexus tablet. I have a phone, I wanted a 7" tablet for those times when I wanted to shut off the phone and play a game or read or watch a movie. I liked the Nvidia Shield, but they pulled that from the market. I settled for Galaxy Tab 4, but so far, IMO, it's total shite. That's the second time Samsung has suckered me into buying something that sounds good, but didn't work out. Not to mention which, Samsung has had something like 6 months to update from 4 to 5 and still have failed to do it.
- sandGorgon 10y agoThe phones have always been the best phones you could buy for the price. The camera on the Nexus 6p and the 5x are still up there with the latest flagships. Android has never had a good tablet story...but on the phones, you should definitely try a Nexus
- dave2000 10y agoAnd the fact that Android is way more popular than iOs shows that most people simply don't know or care what version of Android they have because it makes almost no difference to how the apps they use work. If you care then you should have spent a few minutes research and bought a Nexus or a device from a manufacturer who is more prompt with updates.
- zepto 10y agoThe fact Android is way more popular than iOS can be used to support any conjecture about user preferences. The ASP of Android devices is far lower than that of iOS devices. Android is popular because it appeals to price sensitive consumers who are by far the majority. IOS sells mostly to people who are not primarily price sensitive. That's it.
- dave2000 10y agoI don't know what ASP is and attempts to explain away how Android is far more popular than iOs are neither interesting nor relevant to this discussion (how did Apple get a massive head start if most consumers are price concious?); the fact is, if people were upset about Android updates it would result in people not using Android (which is manifestly not the case) and it would be addressed by Google (which it is not doing).