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I recently had a nagware popup telling me that my phone has already downloaded the 1.1 GB update, with only one option when clicked: "Restart and install"; once

by x1798DE 10y ago

I recently had a nagware popup telling me that my phone has already downloaded the 1.1 GB update, with only one option when clicked: "Restart and install"; once a day after midnight, it seems, the notification goes from a background notification to a foreground notification, and it's not until I enter this "restart and install" screen and hit the back button that the notification gets a "Later / Install" option to turn it back into a background notification. I don't know why LG is pulling this Microsoft Windows 10 nonsense on me, but I certainly wouldn't want to do anything to increase their incentive to do so, so I'd be pretty disappointed with any incentives for OEMs based on "actual adoption" rather than "availability of update".

cm3 10y ago
I'm no fan of gratuitous changes that introduce regressions, but with always connected devices it's crucial to have all security patches applied. That said, the solution seems to be to differentiate critical updates and feature updates and also split stuff into modules/packages.
- x1798DE 10y ago
  I agree, I don't see why it shouldn't be similar to almost every other linux distro where most critical security updates are in modular packages. Frankly, I actually want the feature upgrade, but I certainly don't want to be tricked into it or told after it's already done that a big binary update blob is has been downloaded to my phone.
  - cm3 10y ago
    Also with a phone it's kinda bad if you want to use it for communication right now and have to take the risk and wait of applying the update.
  - dave2000 10y ago
    On Android it tends to default to automatically download updates but you can change this easily if you're in the minority of users who don't want enhancements and security fixes.
dave2000 10y ago
Not sure what os your phone is running but most people actually want phone updates as soon as possible. The reason people don't like Microsoft's Windows 10 upgrade tactics is that they do things like treat clicking the x to close the window as "yes, I'd love to have Windows 10", and the reason they don't want windows 10 is because of the risk it'll stop stuff from working. In all my experience of Android (and a little iOs) I've never heard of an update break anything.
- skybrian 10y ago
  It might perform poorly though. Recent Android OS versions run poorly on older Nexus devices. (In particular the first gen Nexus 7.) Perhaps you didn't see it because you don't run hardware that old?
  - dave2000 10y ago
    The most recent Nexus 10 update I got didn't cause any problems. I think it's Apple upgrades which slow phones down.
- MikusR 10y ago
  No, they treat clicking the x to close the window as "close the window".

by x1798DE 10y ago

cm3 10y ago

I'm no fan of gratuitous changes that introduce regressions, but with always connected devices it's crucial to have all security patches applied. That said, the solution seems to be to differentiate critical updates and feature updates and also split stuff into modules/packages.

x1798DE 10y ago
I agree, I don't see why it shouldn't be similar to almost every other linux distro where most critical security updates are in modular packages. Frankly, I actually want the feature upgrade, but I certainly don't want to be tricked into it or told after it's already done that a big binary update blob is has been downloaded to my phone.
- cm3 10y ago
  Also with a phone it's kinda bad if you want to use it for communication right now and have to take the risk and wait of applying the update.
- dave2000 10y ago
  On Android it tends to default to automatically download updates but you can change this easily if you're in the minority of users who don't want enhancements and security fixes.

dave2000 10y ago

Not sure what os your phone is running but most people actually want phone updates as soon as possible. The reason people don't like Microsoft's Windows 10 upgrade tactics is that they do things like treat clicking the x to close the window as "yes, I'd love to have Windows 10", and the reason they don't want windows 10 is because of the risk it'll stop stuff from working. In all my experience of Android (and a little iOs) I've never heard of an update break anything.

skybrian 10y ago
It might perform poorly though. Recent Android OS versions run poorly on older Nexus devices. (In particular the first gen Nexus 7.) Perhaps you didn't see it because you don't run hardware that old?
- dave2000 10y ago
  The most recent Nexus 10 update I got didn't cause any problems. I think it's Apple upgrades which slow phones down.
MikusR 10y ago
No, they treat clicking the x to close the window as "close the window".