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Last time I did my first aide certificate here in Australia (late 90s), if the back slapping is unsuccessful, the preferred technique was to lay them down on th
by anotherevan 10y ago
Last time I did my first aide certificate here in Australia (late 90s), if the back slapping is unsuccessful, the preferred technique was to lay them down on their side, place your hands under their armpit, flat over their ribs and try short, sharp compressions, squeezing the lungs.
Because the Heimlich technique is so well known, I remember the instructor citing the above as superior because it was less likely to break ribs or do other internal damage.
Caveat: This is in the case of complete obstruction and/or unconsciousness. If it is a partial obstruction, and you can keep the person calm enough to breathe enough, call an ambulance. All first aide is about keeping the person alive long enough for the professionals to take over, not being a hero that solves the problem yourself.
Looked up St John's and it looks like the technique has changed since then: [1] This actually sounds harder for effective compressions though, and requires more strength.
[1] http://www.stjohnambulance.com.au/docs/posters/ehs_choking_a3.pdf http://www.stjohnambulance.com.au/docs/posters/ehs_choking_a...
- jazoom 10y agoI'm a doctor in Australia. The current recommendation is 5 blows to the back between the scapulae followed by 5 pushes on the sternum. Alternate until they either can breathe again or pass out. Heimlich doesn't feature, but I can't say I wouldn't try it if nothing else was working.
- anotherevan 10y ago> Alternate until they either can breathe again or pass out. What do you do once they pass out? Yes, I agree doing the Heimlich would be better than doing nothing. Just that other there seems to be other techniques that are better than Heimlich. I'll defer to your judgement though.