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A cartoon pair of breasts squirt cartoon milk at the end. Are we talking about the technology or the art? At least one of the the creators seems to have a very

by glibgil 10y ago

A cartoon pair of breasts squirt cartoon milk at the end. Are we talking about the technology or the art? At least one of the the creators seems to have a very R. Crumb aesthetic. Is cartoon lactation just part of the art or is it more tech industry misogyny in a project launch? It is interesting for sure on a few levels Analysis: http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R EDIT: stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote. Watch the video, see the cartoon milk squirting breasts. Click on the creator links. Look at their tumblrs. Look at their aesthetic. Discuss the issue. Sorry if the content that they put in their video makes you uncomfortable, but it is on-topic for this post and I'm pointing out that it is there

GTP 10y ago
I saw the two videos on the page but I didn't see the "cartoon milk squirting breasts". Can you please be more specific and point out where they are?
- phyzome 10y ago
  Top video, 0:48, lower right corner.
- glibgil 10y ago
  I don't know why you seem to have a cultural blindspot to what is going on this video, but it is there and by design. Here you go http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R EDIT: Again with the down-votes? I took actual screenshots and captioned (with very little editorial) what is going on in the video. Why would you down-vote that?
  - atom-morgan 10y ago
    > Just being dominated by another female That is not even close to being an objective analysis.
    - glibgil 10y ago
      Yeah, it's close. I made a pretty reasonable analysis of the themes (or tropes) in the video. If this were an art classroom (and any time in the last 50 years, not just the PC era) there would be a lot of discussion about the sexual themes of this video. They are there and they are intentional
  - CaptSpify 10y ago
    I had already read the comment about the breasts and had to watch the video a second time to see them. They were pretty un-noticeable to me.
  - GTP 10y ago
    I don't think to have a cultural blindspot: I just didn't notice the breast squirting animation. I saw the banana thing and I think indeed that the beginning of this video and other photos on their website have a sexsual background but I think you took your interpretation too far, expecially with the domination thing. But of course different people can see different things and only the creators of the video know which meaning they wanted the video to have.
  - phyzome 10y ago
    I was looking at a different part of the video during that sequence. I assume that was true for the other commenter as well...
phyzome 10y ago
The video does have a very weird, uncomfortable aesthetic. It also fails to make the game look at all interesting to me, which I think is related to that.
andymacd 10y ago
For what its worth, I tried this while it was on display in Toronto, and it was great - it was set up for kids and there was no 'cartoon breasts' to be found, just a bunch of super stoked kids seeing their creations come to life & playing with tech
Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago
I don't think it's important. Being offended by breasts is a problem with the viewer, rather than the creator, in my opinion.
- glibgil 10y ago
  I'm not offended. I like cartoon boobs. Why do sexual themes make it into tech promotion often? I don't know. I'll just go back to reading http://oglaf.com http://oglaf.com and leave this alone
forgotpwtomain 10y ago
> stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote. I down-voted. I also watched one of the videos and read the article without noticing any lactating breasts. Nevertheless I think this is the art style, and neither you or I have to view it or like it. I'm really clueless as to which hat you pulled tech industry misogyny out off.
- Retr0spectrum 10y ago
  The parent comment was posed as a question for discussion, rather than a statement of fact. While agree with your points, I disagree with your combative tone.
  - forgotpwtomain 10y ago
    I edited my top level comment in which I wrote that the GP was condescending and opinionated - but I don't agree that the tone was without basis: > stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote. > Watch the video, see the cartoon milk squirting breasts. Click on the creator links. Look at their tumblrs. Look at their aesthetic. Discuss the issue. Sorry if the content that they put in their video makes you uncomfortable, but it is on-topic for this post and I'm pointing out that it is there The entire bulk of GP's edits are in imperative form, and give a very strong impression of exactly that: condescending moralizing - I could be wrong, but given how rare repeated imperatives in English are, I would like to know why you think otherwise.
    - glibgil 10y ago
      The moralizing is about people actually reading what I wrote and the observations I am contributing. It is not about moralizing morality. I like cartoon boobs, but I would never put them in a project launch video and I am amazed whenever female sexuality creeps into tech promotion. I also personally like the aesthetic of the artists who made this. I'm just amazed that there is this cultural blindspot to this type of presentation
- glibgil 10y ago
atom-morgan 10y ago
> Is cartoon lactation just part of the art or is it more tech industry misogyny in a project launch? When intent determines whether an act is right or wrong I believe I'm asking the wrong question.
- dave2000 10y ago
  That's an odd thing to say. It's at the heart of many legal systems. You hit a child with your car. Did they walk out in front of you and you didn't see them or did you have 2 seconds to brake/swerve but didn't want to?
nsxwolf 10y ago
The instant I saw the woman was eating a banana, I knew the word "misogyny" would be brought up multiple times in this discussion. I didn't even notice the breasts.

by glibgil 10y ago

GTP 10y ago

I saw the two videos on the page but I didn't see the "cartoon milk squirting breasts". Can you please be more specific and point out where they are?

phyzome 10y ago
Top video, 0:48, lower right corner.
glibgil 10y ago
I don't know why you seem to have a cultural blindspot to what is going on this video, but it is there and by design. Here you go http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R http://imgur.com/a/gCj8R EDIT: Again with the down-votes? I took actual screenshots and captioned (with very little editorial) what is going on in the video. Why would you down-vote that?
- atom-morgan 10y ago
  > Just being dominated by another female That is not even close to being an objective analysis.
  - glibgil 10y ago
    Yeah, it's close. I made a pretty reasonable analysis of the themes (or tropes) in the video. If this were an art classroom (and any time in the last 50 years, not just the PC era) there would be a lot of discussion about the sexual themes of this video. They are there and they are intentional
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  I had already read the comment about the breasts and had to watch the video a second time to see them. They were pretty un-noticeable to me.
- GTP 10y ago
  I don't think to have a cultural blindspot: I just didn't notice the breast squirting animation. I saw the banana thing and I think indeed that the beginning of this video and other photos on their website have a sexsual background but I think you took your interpretation too far, expecially with the domination thing. But of course different people can see different things and only the creators of the video know which meaning they wanted the video to have.
- phyzome 10y ago
  I was looking at a different part of the video during that sequence. I assume that was true for the other commenter as well...

phyzome 10y ago

The video does have a very weird, uncomfortable aesthetic. It also fails to make the game look at all interesting to me, which I think is related to that.

andymacd 10y ago

For what its worth, I tried this while it was on display in Toronto, and it was great - it was set up for kids and there was no 'cartoon breasts' to be found, just a bunch of super stoked kids seeing their creations come to life & playing with tech

Sir_Cmpwn 10y ago

I don't think it's important. Being offended by breasts is a problem with the viewer, rather than the creator, in my opinion.

glibgil 10y ago
I'm not offended. I like cartoon boobs. Why do sexual themes make it into tech promotion often? I don't know. I'll just go back to reading http://oglaf.com http://oglaf.com and leave this alone

forgotpwtomain 10y ago

> stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote. I down-voted. I also watched one of the videos and read the article without noticing any lactating breasts. Nevertheless I think this is the art style, and neither you or I have to view it or like it. I'm really clueless as to which hat you pulled tech industry misogyny out off.

Retr0spectrum 10y ago
The parent comment was posed as a question for discussion, rather than a statement of fact. While agree with your points, I disagree with your combative tone.
- forgotpwtomain 10y ago
  I edited my top level comment in which I wrote that the GP was condescending and opinionated - but I don't agree that the tone was without basis: > stranger, you are going to need to defend your down-vote. > Watch the video, see the cartoon milk squirting breasts. Click on the creator links. Look at their tumblrs. Look at their aesthetic. Discuss the issue. Sorry if the content that they put in their video makes you uncomfortable, but it is on-topic for this post and I'm pointing out that it is there The entire bulk of GP's edits are in imperative form, and give a very strong impression of exactly that: condescending moralizing - I could be wrong, but given how rare repeated imperatives in English are, I would like to know why you think otherwise.
  - glibgil 10y ago
    The moralizing is about people actually reading what I wrote and the observations I am contributing. It is not about moralizing morality. I like cartoon boobs, but I would never put them in a project launch video and I am amazed whenever female sexuality creeps into tech promotion. I also personally like the aesthetic of the artists who made this. I'm just amazed that there is this cultural blindspot to this type of presentation
glibgil 10y ago

atom-morgan 10y ago

> Is cartoon lactation just part of the art or is it more tech industry misogyny in a project launch? When intent determines whether an act is right or wrong I believe I'm asking the wrong question.

dave2000 10y ago
That's an odd thing to say. It's at the heart of many legal systems. You hit a child with your car. Did they walk out in front of you and you didn't see them or did you have 2 seconds to brake/swerve but didn't want to?

nsxwolf 10y ago

The instant I saw the woman was eating a banana, I knew the word "misogyny" would be brought up multiple times in this discussion. I didn't even notice the breasts.