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The "me" brainwave seemed to be off while I was under. >> his team found a marked drop in the gamma-band activity (25-50 Hz) during anesthesia, a range of brai
by ericb 19y ago
The "me" brainwave seemed to be off while I was under.
>> his team found a marked drop in the gamma-band activity (25-50 Hz) during anesthesia, a range of brain waves that is often associated with consciousness.
http://sci-con.org/2002/05/consciousness-under-anesthesia/ http://sci-con.org/2002/05/consciousness-under-anesthesia/
Is a computer dead when it is unplugged? It seems to me it is in some sense. I could mail its parts around the world separately, reassemble, and restart it.
I think of consciousness as a meta-phenomenon (I am inventing a term here). When watching a movie, there is no movie--only colored pixels changing at various times. Reductionists would like to deny the movie, but it is still there. So maybe I'm a materialist, but not a reductionist.
- yters 19y agoI have a hard time seeing how you can be both at once. The materialist model has no need of properties to explain causality, except as syntactic sugar for us.
- ericb 19y agoSecond order effects can arise out of "base" matter without requiring a ghost in the machine. Conciousness is one of those effects. I am apparently a materialist, but you are muddling that with being a physicalist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicalism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicalism
- yters 19y agoAt this point we may get too much into the metaphysical weeds, but here's a thought experiment that might clarify for me what you mean: P = property M = material base for P We say P1 causes P2. Yet, the effect of P1 on P2 is indistinguishable from M1 on M2. So, how are P1 and P2 necessary for describing what's going on?