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> Isn't it plausible that the same force that is causing warming on Mars is the main cause of our problems on Earth? Your hypothesis is about as likely as the

> Isn't it plausible that the same force that is causing warming on Mars is the main cause of our problems on Earth? Your hypothesis is about as likely as the one where human activity on Earth is causing warming on Mars. No. Climate change is not really in dispute, and neither are its origins in human activity.

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- rain206 10y ago
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mikerichards 10y ago
No. Climate change is not really in dispute, and neither are its origins in human activity. Yes it is in dispute. The left just doesn't want it to be in dispute. People get nervous when people question their religion, and global warming is the official religion of leftists.
- rain206 10y ago
  I think deciplex is referring to scientists. There are of course a lot of people who make claims that arent based in fact in the face of mountains of evidence from the scientific community.
  - mikerichards 10y ago
    ..and mountains of political agenda from individuals who "claim" to be objective in their pursuit of the truth.
    - dang 10y ago
      You've been using HN exclusively to post inflammatory ideological comments. Lashing out at perceived enemies is not what this site is for. If you can't or won't stop doing it, we're going to ban your account. I don't want to do that, which is why I've asked you so many times to stop, but at this point you're doing little but abuse this site.
- DanBC 10y ago
  It's really interesting how you get to this position. There are very many scientists who think that global warming is happening, and is caused by humans. There are a small number of industry groups and politicians, mostly on the right, who think global warming isn't happening (or if it is happening that it isn't caused by humans) - these groups use the same techniques used by big tobacco to spread uncertainty and doubt about the overwhelming scientific consensus. Yet somehow global warming is a "leftist"[1] conspiracy, a religious belief. [1] That word is a great signal, btw.

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rain206 10y ago
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mikerichards 10y ago

No. Climate change is not really in dispute, and neither are its origins in human activity. Yes it is in dispute. The left just doesn't want it to be in dispute. People get nervous when people question their religion, and global warming is the official religion of leftists.

rain206 10y ago
I think deciplex is referring to scientists. There are of course a lot of people who make claims that arent based in fact in the face of mountains of evidence from the scientific community.
- mikerichards 10y ago
  ..and mountains of political agenda from individuals who "claim" to be objective in their pursuit of the truth.
  - dang 10y ago
    You've been using HN exclusively to post inflammatory ideological comments. Lashing out at perceived enemies is not what this site is for. If you can't or won't stop doing it, we're going to ban your account. I don't want to do that, which is why I've asked you so many times to stop, but at this point you're doing little but abuse this site.
DanBC 10y ago
It's really interesting how you get to this position. There are very many scientists who think that global warming is happening, and is caused by humans. There are a small number of industry groups and politicians, mostly on the right, who think global warming isn't happening (or if it is happening that it isn't caused by humans) - these groups use the same techniques used by big tobacco to spread uncertainty and doubt about the overwhelming scientific consensus. Yet somehow global warming is a "leftist"[1] conspiracy, a religious belief. [1] That word is a great signal, btw.