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I find all of the outrage over this to be completely overblown. Everyone complains that OS upgrades are too difficult and so they desperately try to avoid them.

I find all of the outrage over this to be completely overblown. Everyone complains that OS upgrades are too difficult and so they desperately try to avoid them. This results in running 7 year old code that is going to stop being supported in a few short years. Windows 10 is a free upgrade to a an operating system that will be supported for much longer than 7. Also, Windows has adopted a new release cycle that eschews long monolithic upgrades for a more continuous and easy to manage upgrade process. This may be the last time you need to hunker down and do a painful upgrade. I empathize with non-technical users for whom this is a trying experience, but literally every other vendor gets a free pass because you replace your phone every few years, or you've adjusted to a yearly upgrade cycle that is pretty painless. I feel like Microsoft is trying to give people what they want, and all they get in return is kicking and screaming. Until in a few years when they stop supporting older versions of Windows and your Mom gets infected with Randsomware. Then you'll still blame Microsoft, and won't be able to believe that they want to charge you $100 for the privilege of getting on a supported OS.

na85 10y ago
>I feel like Microsoft is trying to give people what they want, and all they get in return is kicking and screaming. They're not giving me what I want. Windows 10 isn't what I want. We wanted Windows 7 with modernizations, not Windows 8.1 with more spyware baked in. >Until in a few years when they stop supporting older versions of Windows and your Mom gets infected with Randsomware. Then you'll still blame Microsoft, and won't be able to believe that they want to charge you $100 for the privilege of getting on a supported OS. What planet do you live on where "supported" means "immune to malware"?
- 6nf 10y ago
  Win10 on 100% of my clients' desktops is what I want though.
- WorldMaker 10y ago
  «We wanted Windows 7 with modernizations, not Windows 8.1 with more spyware baked in.» Hahaha. I wanted Windows 10 to be an upgrade from Windows 8.1 not a downgrade to Windows 7.8. Windows 10 is absolutely a "Windows 7 with modernizations". It lost a lot of Windows 8's charm (literally as well as figuratively) due to complaints from the same vocal crowd that is whining about "spyware". Microsoft will never make y'all happy, but it's still trying, while meanwhile y'all will keep coming up with excuses why Microsoft is the devil and Windows n-2 was really the peak of what Windows should ever aspire to be. (That said, I do really like Windows 10 and even if I'm disappointed it didn't carry through some of the things I really liked about Windows 8.1, I'd still rather use Windows 10 than Windows < 10.)
DanBC 10y ago
There's a small number of people who don't need, nor want, this extra computing power. They were able to send email and read news and write documents in 1986 on a 286. Why the fuck does it take 4 GB Ram and a quad 2GHz processor to do the same today?
- pmlnr 10y ago
  Because UX. /s
pmlnr 10y ago
> or you've adjusted to a yearly upgrade cycle that is pretty painless Painless? Since when spending hours on restoring a working computer is painless? Restoring my phone from a factory reset takes 4-6 hours with all the passwords, configs, apps, etc, if the phone is no rooted and backed up with some massively hacky 3rd party software. Restoring my computer is 2-3 DAYS. Yes, days, because there are things I keep forgetting about and setting it up correctly if a long time. No, I'm not going to install everything on my desktop via ansible scripts.
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na85 10y ago

>I feel like Microsoft is trying to give people what they want, and all they get in return is kicking and screaming. They're not giving me what I want. Windows 10 isn't what I want. We wanted Windows 7 with modernizations, not Windows 8.1 with more spyware baked in. >Until in a few years when they stop supporting older versions of Windows and your Mom gets infected with Randsomware. Then you'll still blame Microsoft, and won't be able to believe that they want to charge you $100 for the privilege of getting on a supported OS. What planet do you live on where "supported" means "immune to malware"?

6nf 10y ago
Win10 on 100% of my clients' desktops is what I want though.
WorldMaker 10y ago
«We wanted Windows 7 with modernizations, not Windows 8.1 with more spyware baked in.» Hahaha. I wanted Windows 10 to be an upgrade from Windows 8.1 not a downgrade to Windows 7.8. Windows 10 is absolutely a "Windows 7 with modernizations". It lost a lot of Windows 8's charm (literally as well as figuratively) due to complaints from the same vocal crowd that is whining about "spyware". Microsoft will never make y'all happy, but it's still trying, while meanwhile y'all will keep coming up with excuses why Microsoft is the devil and Windows n-2 was really the peak of what Windows should ever aspire to be. (That said, I do really like Windows 10 and even if I'm disappointed it didn't carry through some of the things I really liked about Windows 8.1, I'd still rather use Windows 10 than Windows < 10.)

DanBC 10y ago

There's a small number of people who don't need, nor want, this extra computing power. They were able to send email and read news and write documents in 1986 on a 286. Why the fuck does it take 4 GB Ram and a quad 2GHz processor to do the same today?

pmlnr 10y ago
Because UX. /s

pmlnr 10y ago

> or you've adjusted to a yearly upgrade cycle that is pretty painless Painless? Since when spending hours on restoring a working computer is painless? Restoring my phone from a factory reset takes 4-6 hours with all the passwords, configs, apps, etc, if the phone is no rooted and backed up with some massively hacky 3rd party software. Restoring my computer is 2-3 DAYS. Yes, days, because there are things I keep forgetting about and setting it up correctly if a long time. No, I'm not going to install everything on my desktop via ansible scripts.

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