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> breaking working installs of W7 for no obvious reason Obvious reason is they want people to upgrade. Personally I can see why they would be frustrated with p

by serge2k 10y ago

> breaking working installs of W7 for no obvious reason Obvious reason is they want people to upgrade. Personally I can see why they would be frustrated with people refusing to upgrade a decade old OS even when the upgrade is free. edit: 7 year old OS.

MawNicker 10y ago
The rest of the world (not us) just wants a user interface that's consistent. People need the use of their computers nowadays. They build their lives on top of them. Sweeping that out from under people without asking is NOT ok. Many people rely on old/custom software that could have easily been rendered useless in the transition. This was not an acceptable response to users refusing to upgrade. They should be allowed to do that... They bought the old version. Who cares if the new version is free.
tdkl 10y ago
Make people WANT to upgrade You know, being faster and cleaner, added features, reverting what they borked up with 8. What they managed to achieve is a public disgust when someone mentions "windows updates" (in case Windows wasn't mocked enough already). Good job MS.
dingaling 10y ago
> Personally I can see why they would be frustrated with people refusing to upgrade a decade old OS Why? They can just end support for old versions per their EULAs and shut-off access to the update servers. Canonical doesn't care if I'm still using 8.04, they have no responsibility or liability for old releases. Why would MS be any different? There's a deeper reason for this upgrade push but I don't know what it is.
Piskvorrr 10y ago
Yeah, yeah. IF that upgrade was onto something that works like the existing setup, and especially IF it gave ME a choice when to upgrade, no problemo. See, I may have had reasons for holding onto W7, and they weren't "let's spite the Redmond people". Opening up shop in the morning and finding that none of your equipment works anymore, despite having been perfectly fine yesterday is EEEEEEXACTLY the reason people are refusing to upgrade (because no drivers for WinX, because fuck you that's why, Where Do You Want To Go Today - Windows X Or Windows Ten?). Replacing Microsoft's frustration of "the adoption charts are not high enough" with my frustration of "okay, companywide downtime while IT repaves from backups and scrambles to block the now-rogue vendor" works for them (externalizing costs, hooray!). In the shortest of short terms only, alas - the trust we had in the OS is gone, this could happen again (e.g. at any time in the future MS could decide that their old OS cannibalizes the sales of their Windows Up To 11, or whatever). NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. (Technically, "we want you to upgrade because we want you to upgrade" is a bit of circular reasoning)

by serge2k 10y ago

MawNicker 10y ago

The rest of the world (not us) just wants a user interface that's consistent. People need the use of their computers nowadays. They build their lives on top of them. Sweeping that out from under people without asking is NOT ok. Many people rely on old/custom software that could have easily been rendered useless in the transition. This was not an acceptable response to users refusing to upgrade. They should be allowed to do that... They bought the old version. Who cares if the new version is free.

tdkl 10y ago

Make people WANT to upgrade You know, being faster and cleaner, added features, reverting what they borked up with 8. What they managed to achieve is a public disgust when someone mentions "windows updates" (in case Windows wasn't mocked enough already). Good job MS.

dingaling 10y ago

> Personally I can see why they would be frustrated with people refusing to upgrade a decade old OS Why? They can just end support for old versions per their EULAs and shut-off access to the update servers. Canonical doesn't care if I'm still using 8.04, they have no responsibility or liability for old releases. Why would MS be any different? There's a deeper reason for this upgrade push but I don't know what it is.

Piskvorrr 10y ago

Yeah, yeah. IF that upgrade was onto something that works like the existing setup, and especially IF it gave ME a choice when to upgrade, no problemo. See, I may have had reasons for holding onto W7, and they weren't "let's spite the Redmond people". Opening up shop in the morning and finding that none of your equipment works anymore, despite having been perfectly fine yesterday is EEEEEEXACTLY the reason people are refusing to upgrade (because no drivers for WinX, because fuck you that's why, Where Do You Want To Go Today - Windows X Or Windows Ten?). Replacing Microsoft's frustration of "the adoption charts are not high enough" with my frustration of "okay, companywide downtime while IT repaves from backups and scrambles to block the now-rogue vendor" works for them (externalizing costs, hooray!). In the shortest of short terms only, alas - the trust we had in the OS is gone, this could happen again (e.g. at any time in the future MS could decide that their old OS cannibalizes the sales of their Windows Up To 11, or whatever). NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE. (Technically, "we want you to upgrade because we want you to upgrade" is a bit of circular reasoning)