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Microsoft is simultaneously more open than ever (dev-related) and acting just like the 90s (consumer-related). So strange, Windows 10 is pretty nice but they ri

by sambe 10y ago

Microsoft is simultaneously more open than ever (dev-related) and acting just like the 90s (consumer-related). So strange, Windows 10 is pretty nice but they risk destroying reputation with spyware and deceit. I am assuming they are desperate to get people onto the continuous upgrade train to avoid the Windows XP situation occur inn again.

cm2187 10y ago
That's being nice to Microsoft. Another way to see it is that they want to monetize their users by taking a cut of the software installed with the app store, with bing integrated in the OS, and with ads being served directly in the OS. And they care more about monetizing their users than their users privacy or interest.
- secoif 10y ago
  > "…they care more about monetizing their users than their users privacy or interest." Sadly this is true for all but a handful of companies.
serge2k 10y ago
It's already happening, look at all the people just in this thread who refuse to update to 10.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  And then look around and see the genpops, the non-tech-savvy people who already know they don't want to upgrade to Windows 10. I was really surprised by that initially - it's rare that people outside of tech know anything about any of the bullshit companies pull, but here I suddenly had random people consulting me on the Windows 10 issue...
crdoconnor 10y ago
The opening up on the dev side is not a signal that they've had a change of heart. It's just a ploy to stave off future irrelevance. With consumers using Windows they still dominate the market. Hence no need to be Mr nice guy. If their open sourcing strategy works and leads to any kind of market dominance I'm pretty confident that they'll revert to old tactics on the dev side just like before.
- AnonymousPlanet 10y ago
  This is exactly how I see things too. I'm pretty amazed by the naivety I see around here. None of their open sourcing moves are immune to a complete 180° turn on their part, making the move effectively void. On the contrary, all their recent moves look like they are just after getting all those devs that use Linux and OSX to move to Windows.

by sambe 10y ago

cm2187 10y ago

That's being nice to Microsoft. Another way to see it is that they want to monetize their users by taking a cut of the software installed with the app store, with bing integrated in the OS, and with ads being served directly in the OS. And they care more about monetizing their users than their users privacy or interest.

secoif 10y ago
> "…they care more about monetizing their users than their users privacy or interest." Sadly this is true for all but a handful of companies.

serge2k 10y ago

It's already happening, look at all the people just in this thread who refuse to update to 10.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
And then look around and see the genpops, the non-tech-savvy people who already know they don't want to upgrade to Windows 10. I was really surprised by that initially - it's rare that people outside of tech know anything about any of the bullshit companies pull, but here I suddenly had random people consulting me on the Windows 10 issue...

crdoconnor 10y ago

The opening up on the dev side is not a signal that they've had a change of heart. It's just a ploy to stave off future irrelevance. With consumers using Windows they still dominate the market. Hence no need to be Mr nice guy. If their open sourcing strategy works and leads to any kind of market dominance I'm pretty confident that they'll revert to old tactics on the dev side just like before.

AnonymousPlanet 10y ago
This is exactly how I see things too. I'm pretty amazed by the naivety I see around here. None of their open sourcing moves are immune to a complete 180° turn on their part, making the move effectively void. On the contrary, all their recent moves look like they are just after getting all those devs that use Linux and OSX to move to Windows.