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I can't believe the attitude you received in some of those replies :-/

by 0x0 10y ago

uuoc 10y ago
Actually, that attitude is exactly what one receives from the systemd crew. They, and only they, know what you want, when you want it, and they always know better than you do. That's why the systemd crew generates such great hatred.
misnome 10y ago
I love that the long, flaming reply so obviously didn't read the entire report, went on to lecture how to change the behaviour, and completely ignored the questions of expectation.
JdeBP 10y ago
I suspect that you're all talking about the reply from Christian Rebischke, who is indeed now talking about a "hate-report" and "a reason to cry". * https://twitter.com/Sh1bumi/status/735973258793779200 https://twitter.com/Sh1bumi/status/735973258793779200 In fairness, please note that Christian Rebischke is not one of the Debian system maintainers, who wrote some of the other replies and whom you will find listed on this Debian WWW page: * https://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html https://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html Nor is xe a systemd developer, apparently. * https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master?author=shibumi https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master?author=shi... Unless filing bug reports against systemd makes xem part of "the systemd crew", which, considering the headline of this page, would be a huge double standard. * https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues?q=shibumi https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues?q=shibumi
- dkuntz2 10y ago
  I don't think that's related at all. From what I can tell, Christian isn't involved in the GP's thread about systemd and usb serial communications.
  - JdeBP 10y ago
    Gah! You're right. I thought that we were still talking about the headline on this page.
mgbmtl 10y ago
I read the thread, and it seemed rather cordial. Which message in particular?
- digi_owl 10y ago
  The one from GregKH, natch. The one that the linked to email is a reply to.
  - mgbmtl 10y ago
    Ah oops indeed. Skimmed too quickly :) The replies from other people (A. Borzenkov) seemed OK.
    - digi_owl 10y ago
      Yeah i am sitting here confused about why Greg got involved at all, especially in such a rough manner. But then he seems to straddle the kernel/userspace line more than most other kernel devs i know of.

I can't believe the attitude you received in some of those replies :-/

by 0x0 10y ago

I can't believe the attitude you received in some of those replies :-/

uuoc 10y ago

Actually, that attitude is exactly what one receives from the systemd crew. They, and only they, know what you want, when you want it, and they always know better than you do. That's why the systemd crew generates such great hatred.

misnome 10y ago

I love that the long, flaming reply so obviously didn't read the entire report, went on to lecture how to change the behaviour, and completely ignored the questions of expectation.

JdeBP 10y ago

I suspect that you're all talking about the reply from Christian Rebischke, who is indeed now talking about a "hate-report" and "a reason to cry". * https://twitter.com/Sh1bumi/status/735973258793779200 https://twitter.com/Sh1bumi/status/735973258793779200 In fairness, please note that Christian Rebischke is not one of the Debian system maintainers, who wrote some of the other replies and whom you will find listed on this Debian WWW page: * https://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html https://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html Nor is xe a systemd developer, apparently. * https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master?author=shibumi https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commits/master?author=shi... Unless filing bug reports against systemd makes xem part of "the systemd crew", which, considering the headline of this page, would be a huge double standard. * https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues?q=shibumi https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues?q=shibumi

dkuntz2 10y ago
I don't think that's related at all. From what I can tell, Christian isn't involved in the GP's thread about systemd and usb serial communications.
- JdeBP 10y ago
  Gah! You're right. I thought that we were still talking about the headline on this page.

mgbmtl 10y ago

I read the thread, and it seemed rather cordial. Which message in particular?

digi_owl 10y ago
The one from GregKH, natch. The one that the linked to email is a reply to.
- mgbmtl 10y ago
  Ah oops indeed. Skimmed too quickly :) The replies from other people (A. Borzenkov) seemed OK.
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Yeah i am sitting here confused about why Greg got involved at all, especially in such a rough manner. But then he seems to straddle the kernel/userspace line more than most other kernel devs i know of.