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I think not talking about race is more damaging than talking about race in many contexts. I also think that a decrease in institutional privilege (white male, i

I think not talking about race is more damaging than talking about race in many contexts. I also think that a decrease in institutional privilege (white male, in this case) is not discriminatory. I also don't think "quotas" are a good solution, e.g., "Hire one more Mexican woman and we're good!" But acknowledging some statistical realities and taking a close look at what got you there isn't a bad thing.

GunboatDiplomat 10y ago
Talking about race makes things which aren't about race about race, which introduces racism. Not talking about race lets the issue of race go quiet into that good night where it belongs.
- drhayes9 10y ago
  Behavior introduces racism, not talking. Talking about it means we might find a solution or a mitigation. You make it sound like the problem would go away if we'd just stop talking about it. That's not a solution; that's just sweeping it under the rug.
  - GunboatDiplomat 10y ago
    Talking is a behavior, is it not? The problem ises some people know that they can discriminate against people based on skin color. They learned that certain groups had certain stereotypes. They learned these "facts" because people around them reinforced that these groups were different by talking about how the groups were different. Talking about race is only going to beget more racism at this point.
sachel1sta 10y ago
"A decrease in institutional privilege"? What are you people smoking? The choices you make affect real _people_--not institutions; hiring someone over someone else based on some relatively arbitrary superficial trait--thinking that you know that person and what they've lived through--has serious effects on that individual--not an institution. But you choose to make those choices, because you perpetually believe you know things that you do not.

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I think not talking about race is more damaging than talking about race in many contexts. I also think that a decrease in institutional privilege (white male, i

by drhayes9 10y ago

GunboatDiplomat 10y ago
Talking about race makes things which aren't about race about race, which introduces racism. Not talking about race lets the issue of race go quiet into that good night where it belongs.
- drhayes9 10y ago
  Behavior introduces racism, not talking. Talking about it means we might find a solution or a mitigation. You make it sound like the problem would go away if we'd just stop talking about it. That's not a solution; that's just sweeping it under the rug.
  - GunboatDiplomat 10y ago
    Talking is a behavior, is it not? The problem ises some people know that they can discriminate against people based on skin color. They learned that certain groups had certain stereotypes. They learned these "facts" because people around them reinforced that these groups were different by talking about how the groups were different. Talking about race is only going to beget more racism at this point.
sachel1sta 10y ago
"A decrease in institutional privilege"? What are you people smoking? The choices you make affect real _people_--not institutions; hiring someone over someone else based on some relatively arbitrary superficial trait--thinking that you know that person and what they've lived through--has serious effects on that individual--not an institution. But you choose to make those choices, because you perpetually believe you know things that you do not.