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The monetization piece is interesting, because unlike FB, Snapchat has been all about privacy and anonymity from day one. Their recent ToS change makes it clea

The monetization piece is interesting, because unlike FB, Snapchat has been all about privacy and anonymity from day one. Their recent ToS change makes it clear that this might not always be the case, and I'm really curious to see how their users react as they get more and more aggressive on monetization. The core functionality doesn't necessarily require the network effect to be useful, unlike Facebook, so there is theoretically less reason to stick around if the monetization ramp-up negatively impacts the user experience.

mralvar 10y ago
http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/ http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/ http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/fulldisclosure/ http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/fulldisclosure/ Really?
gjolund 10y ago
They store all the photos internally. This was confirmed to me by several snapchat employees while interviewing.
- HappyTypist 10y ago
  Do you mean indefinitely? Are they not deleted after a certain period of time?
  - azinman2 10y ago
    Effectively they are deleted just not how you might imagine -- I can't reveal more as I'm not supposed to know this ;)
    - askafriend 10y ago
      They probably just batch delete them from time to time but until then do a soft delete by setting "status 0" in the DB. I imagine that's what they do.
    - feelix 10y ago
      >not how you might imagine Then I imagine they're "deleted" off of their servers, but not before being copied to another database that they use internally which isn't attached to the original servers directly.
- argonaut 10y ago
  And nobody cares? Sexting is an extremely minor use of Snapchat nowadays, and everyone knows you can just screenshot.
- nicd 10y ago
  I think you either misinterpreted the employees's comments, or they were mistaken. Our deletion policies are clearly outlined in our privacy policy (Snapchat.com/privacy). "...we automatically delete the content of your Snaps (the photo and video messages that you send your friends) from our servers after we detect that a Snap has been opened or has expired." Note that the deletion model is different for non-Snap media: "Outside of Snaps, the rest of our services may use content for longer periods of time, which means those services may follow different deletion protocols. So, for example, we retain your Story content a bit longer than Snaps so that your friends have more time to view your Story." Disclaimer: I'm an employee of Snapchat.
largote 10y ago
Privacy? They don't allow you to opt-out of Friend Emojis...

mralvar 10y ago

http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/ http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/ http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/fulldisclosure/ http://gibsonsec.org/snapchat/fulldisclosure/ Really?

gjolund 10y ago

They store all the photos internally. This was confirmed to me by several snapchat employees while interviewing.

HappyTypist 10y ago
Do you mean indefinitely? Are they not deleted after a certain period of time?
- azinman2 10y ago
  Effectively they are deleted just not how you might imagine -- I can't reveal more as I'm not supposed to know this ;)
  - askafriend 10y ago
    They probably just batch delete them from time to time but until then do a soft delete by setting "status 0" in the DB. I imagine that's what they do.
  - feelix 10y ago
    >not how you might imagine Then I imagine they're "deleted" off of their servers, but not before being copied to another database that they use internally which isn't attached to the original servers directly.
argonaut 10y ago
And nobody cares? Sexting is an extremely minor use of Snapchat nowadays, and everyone knows you can just screenshot.
nicd 10y ago
I think you either misinterpreted the employees's comments, or they were mistaken. Our deletion policies are clearly outlined in our privacy policy (Snapchat.com/privacy). "...we automatically delete the content of your Snaps (the photo and video messages that you send your friends) from our servers after we detect that a Snap has been opened or has expired." Note that the deletion model is different for non-Snap media: "Outside of Snaps, the rest of our services may use content for longer periods of time, which means those services may follow different deletion protocols. So, for example, we retain your Story content a bit longer than Snaps so that your friends have more time to view your Story." Disclaimer: I'm an employee of Snapchat.

largote 10y ago

Privacy? They don't allow you to opt-out of Friend Emojis...