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See, as ever, Florian Mueller for a... different perspective: http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/05/oracle-v-google-jury-finds-in-favor-of.html http://www.fosspate

See, as ever, Florian Mueller for a... different perspective: http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/05/oracle-v-google-jury-finds-in-favor-of.html http://www.fosspatents.com/2016/05/oracle-v-google-jury-find...

Oletros 10y ago
His level of insanity and hatred is beyond belief
- kstrauser 10y ago
  No. He's a paid consultant to Oracle and Microsoft (see: http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-to-google-which-bloggers-did-you-pay-off-2012-8?op=1 http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-to-google-which-blogge...) and his employers get their money's worth.
  - vesinisa 10y ago
    He still seems like a sociopath. Taking money to poison communities does not glorify it.
    - kstrauser 10y ago
      I didn't say he's not scummy, just that he's not insane. It's my belief that he's get paid well to say scummy things, which is rational if not tasteful.
- jshevek 10y ago
  Your statement seemed hyperbolic until I followed the link and skimmed a handful of posts. He does indeed come across as someone consumed by hatred to the level of insanity. Why wouldn't anyone link to him? Its like linking to the Westboro baptist people in a discussion about Christian theology.
  - yohui 10y ago
    Because for those who didn't know better Müller appeared well-informed and it was convenient to cite him if he was on your side or you were writing a mainstream article and too lazy to find another source, especially after Groklaw shut down. At least the Oracle vs. Google case revealed that he was actually a paid consultant for Oracle and Microsoft. It might be bad form to attack his character rather than his arguments, but it does save time when dealing with Müller.
- AnimalMuppet 10y ago
  Well, IIRC he is (or at least was) an intellectual property lawyer. That may have contributed to him seeming to take personally any limitations on what can be covered by IP. Or maybe not. Most IP lawyers are less unhinged than Muller...
physicalist 10y ago
I'm not going to read that :-D
gpm 10y ago
Out of curiosity, do we know if he is still being payed for this?
- bitmapbrother 10y ago
  If not directly from Oracle than indirectly.
  - elygre 10y ago
    Do we have any evidence of this?
    - farcical_tinpot 10y ago
      Seriously?
- zerocrates 10y ago
  At least according to the man himself, he's not (at least not directly). > As you can see, this blog's Oracle v. Google anti-unfair trial campaign--not affiliated with any party in any way whatsoever--is continuing.
farcical_tinpot 10y ago
Funny how he mentions a rigged trial, which is exactly what the Supreme Court ruling was. However, they declined to hear again which could effectively mean "You got your copyrighted APIs, now fuck off". Mueller is so discredited he doesn't have any weight at all.
- elygre 10y ago
  In which way was the Supreme Court rulling rigged?
  - farcical_tinpot 10y ago
    It was pretty obvious Oracle wanted it to go there because they hadn't the faintest idea how things actually worked. Oracle could then apply legal pressure and handwaving.

Oletros 10y ago

His level of insanity and hatred is beyond belief

kstrauser 10y ago
No. He's a paid consultant to Oracle and Microsoft (see: http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-to-google-which-bloggers-did-you-pay-off-2012-8?op=1 http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-to-google-which-blogge...) and his employers get their money's worth.
- vesinisa 10y ago
  He still seems like a sociopath. Taking money to poison communities does not glorify it.
  - kstrauser 10y ago
    I didn't say he's not scummy, just that he's not insane. It's my belief that he's get paid well to say scummy things, which is rational if not tasteful.
jshevek 10y ago
Your statement seemed hyperbolic until I followed the link and skimmed a handful of posts. He does indeed come across as someone consumed by hatred to the level of insanity. Why wouldn't anyone link to him? Its like linking to the Westboro baptist people in a discussion about Christian theology.
- yohui 10y ago
  Because for those who didn't know better Müller appeared well-informed and it was convenient to cite him if he was on your side or you were writing a mainstream article and too lazy to find another source, especially after Groklaw shut down. At least the Oracle vs. Google case revealed that he was actually a paid consultant for Oracle and Microsoft. It might be bad form to attack his character rather than his arguments, but it does save time when dealing with Müller.
AnimalMuppet 10y ago
Well, IIRC he is (or at least was) an intellectual property lawyer. That may have contributed to him seeming to take personally any limitations on what can be covered by IP. Or maybe not. Most IP lawyers are less unhinged than Muller...

physicalist 10y ago

I'm not going to read that :-D

gpm 10y ago

Out of curiosity, do we know if he is still being payed for this?

bitmapbrother 10y ago
If not directly from Oracle than indirectly.
- elygre 10y ago
  Do we have any evidence of this?
  - farcical_tinpot 10y ago
    Seriously?
zerocrates 10y ago
At least according to the man himself, he's not (at least not directly). > As you can see, this blog's Oracle v. Google anti-unfair trial campaign--not affiliated with any party in any way whatsoever--is continuing.

farcical_tinpot 10y ago

Funny how he mentions a rigged trial, which is exactly what the Supreme Court ruling was. However, they declined to hear again which could effectively mean "You got your copyrighted APIs, now fuck off". Mueller is so discredited he doesn't have any weight at all.

elygre 10y ago
In which way was the Supreme Court rulling rigged?
- farcical_tinpot 10y ago
  It was pretty obvious Oracle wanted it to go there because they hadn't the faintest idea how things actually worked. Oracle could then apply legal pressure and handwaving.