Okay. What about their deployment CI/pipeline? I don't think GC offer that? I want to emphasize my philosophy on ops vs dev. I strongly encourage dev learn to d

Okay. What about their deployment CI/pipeline? I don't think GC offer that? I want to emphasize my philosophy on ops vs dev. I strongly encourage dev learn to do ops and ops should do dev work. So the question is, who is doing everything else outside of product development? Is dev doing all of the traditional ops-only work? Creating a self-service portal is both a dev and an ops job. It may just happen that someone is not 100% dedicated to do ops work. This is not even a debate of dev vs devops role. It would be disingenuous to say there is 0 Ops people if some dev are involved in doing Ops work (setting up DNS even programmatically). So I'd ask for clarification. Let's face it, someone is doing Ops work, but with a different title.