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Searched this entire thread and no mention of DMCA or Safe Harbors. Linking to a 3rd party is good to avoid worrying about that sort of stuff. Not that I'm an a

Searched this entire thread and no mention of DMCA or Safe Harbors. Linking to a 3rd party is good to avoid worrying about that sort of stuff. Not that I'm an advocate for illicit rehosting, but just commenting as an observer. It gets briefly touched on at the very end of the article, but self-hosting may carry with it a whole lot of extra work to avoid getting a big bullseye painted on the company. I'm sure more than a few content creators - probably in the adult business - have their lawyers on speed dial. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. It's not just a PR thing, it's a legal thing.

patrickaljord 10y ago
> no mention of DMCA or Safe Harbors. Linking to a 3rd party is good to avoid worrying about that sort of stuff As an ex-isoHunter, I can tell you still need to worry about that kind of stuff, even if you're not hosting, linking to a massive amount of pirated content will get you sued quickly too.
- 6stringmerc 10y ago
  Sure, you're not wrong on that at all. I follow that linking third party is not a guaranteed pass, but in the scope of infringement penalties the actual hosting is where the real penalty cash can add up from what I've observed. The massive scale of Reddit helps it claim - in my personal perspective - that infringement isn't its main business model, that infringement has been incidental as part of the greater operation. ISO sites probably couldn't make the same sort of claim, I'd guess.
TarpitCarnivore 10y ago
Wouldn't this give Reddit more control though? If the files are hosted somewhere else they have to rely on that service to handle takedowns. It means they can still show up all over Reddit and to a lot of users come across like Reddit is hosting them; speaking from the stand point of your average user, not Reddit/HN user. I would imagine Reddit wants to have control and be able to more quickly take down things versus waiting for moderators to automod or manually remove posts.
- Crespyl 10y ago
  Reddit having more control and being able to take things down may be a mixed bag at best as far as many users and mods are concerned. A lot of users are very twitchy about anything that even hints at censorship right now.

patrickaljord 10y ago

> no mention of DMCA or Safe Harbors. Linking to a 3rd party is good to avoid worrying about that sort of stuff As an ex-isoHunter, I can tell you still need to worry about that kind of stuff, even if you're not hosting, linking to a massive amount of pirated content will get you sued quickly too.

6stringmerc 10y ago
Sure, you're not wrong on that at all. I follow that linking third party is not a guaranteed pass, but in the scope of infringement penalties the actual hosting is where the real penalty cash can add up from what I've observed. The massive scale of Reddit helps it claim - in my personal perspective - that infringement isn't its main business model, that infringement has been incidental as part of the greater operation. ISO sites probably couldn't make the same sort of claim, I'd guess.

TarpitCarnivore 10y ago

Wouldn't this give Reddit more control though? If the files are hosted somewhere else they have to rely on that service to handle takedowns. It means they can still show up all over Reddit and to a lot of users come across like Reddit is hosting them; speaking from the stand point of your average user, not Reddit/HN user. I would imagine Reddit wants to have control and be able to more quickly take down things versus waiting for moderators to automod or manually remove posts.

Crespyl 10y ago
Reddit having more control and being able to take things down may be a mixed bag at best as far as many users and mods are concerned. A lot of users are very twitchy about anything that even hints at censorship right now.