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> When an article makes a politically correct claim: "Yeah I totally feel this is true, this one time [insert anecdote here]" > When an article makes a not-so
by zxcvvcxz 10y ago
> When an article makes a politically correct claim:
"Yeah I totally feel this is true, this one time [insert anecdote here]"
> When an article makes a not-so politically correct claim:
"Well it's not peer reviewed / look at the paper that's publishing it / this is the wrong definition / headline is misleading / [insert criticism not related to the claim]"
- jsmthrowaway 10y agoGiven the forum I'm surprised nobody has cited pg's pyramid yet, which is very relevant here.
- zxcvvcxz 10y agoEveryone should give this a read if they haven't already: http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html
- homogeneous 10y agoThis observation sounds like a case of confirmation bias to me. Check out this thread for multiple examples of how this "not-so politically correct claim" "makes sense" (among other thoughtful anecdotes along the trajectory of the article's headline)
- dsfyu404ed 10y agobut look at the ratio, way more disagreement that something like a "we need better infrastructure" article. When the topic is politically correct people agree and argue about the edge cases. When it's not politically correct people do mental gymnastics or pile up anecdotes to discredit it.
- homogeneous 10y agoAre we looking at the same thread? There are clearly many more comments in here expressing anecdotal confirmation of the study's findings than those suggesting the study's methods preclude it from consideration.
- jshevek 10y agoBy time stamps, I think the first wave of comments had one tone, and the next wave of comments took the opposite tone.
- arprocter 10y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling
- geofft 10y agoDoes virtue signalling actually exist? I haven't seen any peer-reviewed papers about it.
- andylei 10y ago> When an article makes a claim i like "Yeah I totally feel this is true, this one time [insert anecdote here]" > When an article makes a claim i don't like "Well it's not peer reviewed / look at the paper that's publishing it / this is the wrong definition / headline is misleading / [insert criticism not related to the claim]"
- stdbrouw 10y agoIt's not necessarily wrong to expect different standards of evidence for different kinds of claims, and to expect a very high standard of evidence for claims that might have profound social implications.
- Loughla 10y agoThe problem is that it doesn't often come down to what will have profound social impacts, instead it tends to be what the loudest group of folks disagree with. Those are two different things.
- Shivetya 10y agoLittle to do with profound social impacts, its all about how much the evidence contradicts what someone either believes or wants to believe. Now people certainly can hide behind the idea that they only do so for profound social implications but by then they are just trying avoid acknowledging that they know whats being said is true. there are always some socially unacceptable facts, the kind people either nod their head or just acknowledge silently. It comes from being in a society where truth is second to needs.
- force_reboot 10y agoAssuming that the consequences of acting like X is true when X is false, are much worse than the consequences of acting like X is false when X is true, there's a subtle but important difference between saying "we should err on the side of acting as if X is false", and saying "we should be skeptical of claims that X is true"
- Pxtl 10y agos/politically correct/supports my preconceptions/