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Thanks, normally that would be OK but I basically apt-get autoremoved some system utils [0] and the thing wouldn't boot again. Had been so careful for years, th

by luxpir 10y ago

Thanks, normally that would be OK but I basically apt-get autoremoved some system utils [0] and the thing wouldn't boot again. Had been so careful for years, then one careless keystroke and I'd hosed the system. I'd reflash it, but the re-solder of the usb port finally went and took most of the PCB connectors with it. And I was careful there too, again for years. So without booting and without data connectivity, rsync won't be an option. So it's a case of (I think) soldering a new USB cable into place under the battery, charging, exfil the data, then reflash to finally have it back in business. Albeit with a rat-tail hanging out the case. -- [0] Never figured out what the utils were, but seem to recall it being part of a python dependency chain. So autoremove had somehow, probably incorrectly, thought it was OK to get rid of a key component of some kind. It was the power kernel with a bunch of mods, so probably my own fault somewhere along the line.

digi_owl 10y ago
Well they are using systemd, and if one unit fails to come up in systemd, the whole thing will throw a hissy fit and go into emergency mode.
- zymhan 10y ago
  Better than hanging or crashing in some unpredictable and irrecoverable fashion.
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Such as?
- slrz 10y ago
  Right, it's very likely that systemd is the reason luxpir's N900 (released in 2009) doesn't boot anymore.
pessimizer 10y ago
I hear you. I hate that neither N900 nor Jolla can just have mainline boring Debian with normal boring updates, but instead have to be Frankenstein's monsters filled with proprietary blobs and /opt-ified nonsense. If you do anything slightly strange, apt-get turns dangerous. I would say to make sure that you have all of the Maemo images saved somewhere, and know where the repos currently reside. I just reimaged another N900 and got it current in order to avoid dealing with its broken USB port, and it's starting to become a bit of an ordeal. t.m.o. is dying...
- wicket 10y ago
  > I hate that neither N900 nor Jolla can just have mainline boring Debian with normal boring updates The N900 can. Shameless plug: https://github.com/dderby/debian900/ https://github.com/dderby/debian900/
- luxpir 10y ago
  Thanks for that. I'd better look into that sooner rather than later. Funny, I was actually cleaning up the system to reinstate the Debian chroot. That basically is the end game with mobile computing, I suppose. Fully mobile and portable systems, good battery life, processing power and of course open. One of these days, maybe!

by luxpir 10y ago

digi_owl 10y ago

Well they are using systemd, and if one unit fails to come up in systemd, the whole thing will throw a hissy fit and go into emergency mode.

zymhan 10y ago
Better than hanging or crashing in some unpredictable and irrecoverable fashion.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  Such as?
slrz 10y ago
Right, it's very likely that systemd is the reason luxpir's N900 (released in 2009) doesn't boot anymore.

pessimizer 10y ago

I hear you. I hate that neither N900 nor Jolla can just have mainline boring Debian with normal boring updates, but instead have to be Frankenstein's monsters filled with proprietary blobs and /opt-ified nonsense. If you do anything slightly strange, apt-get turns dangerous. I would say to make sure that you have all of the Maemo images saved somewhere, and know where the repos currently reside. I just reimaged another N900 and got it current in order to avoid dealing with its broken USB port, and it's starting to become a bit of an ordeal. t.m.o. is dying...

wicket 10y ago
> I hate that neither N900 nor Jolla can just have mainline boring Debian with normal boring updates The N900 can. Shameless plug: https://github.com/dderby/debian900/ https://github.com/dderby/debian900/
luxpir 10y ago
Thanks for that. I'd better look into that sooner rather than later. Funny, I was actually cleaning up the system to reinstate the Debian chroot. That basically is the end game with mobile computing, I suppose. Fully mobile and portable systems, good battery life, processing power and of course open. One of these days, maybe!