Yeah, that's the connotation I was trying to avoid, that's what I was talking about... >It used to be that your computer had a compiler, and editor, and a shel

Yeah, that's the connotation I was trying to avoid, that's what I was talking about... >It used to be that your computer had a compiler, and editor, and a shell, and you would go to work, writing code. By "hardcore coder" I just mean someone who thinks ^that^ sounds like a lot of fun.