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I would love to have a Sailfish OS phone but if they are not Open Sourcing their UI libraries I can't convince myself to buy it. It's a real shame because all

I would love to have a Sailfish OS phone but if they are not Open Sourcing their UI libraries I can't convince myself to buy it. It's a real shame because all I want is a fast, simple OpenSource phone OS (that is as responsive as iOS). AOSP is okay but it does not feel as snappy as when I tried iOS for which I blame Dalvik. There are not a lot of contenders, only Tizen, Ubuntu Phone and plasma mobile. I hope one of them will be installable on the Fairphone 2 in the near future...

cm3 10y ago
I don't want to sound dismissive but why is that a deciding factor over, say, an Android phone? At least the UI should be easier to make snappy with Qt underneath so I'd consider it if I were in the market for a phone.
ocean3 10y ago
ASOP because of gpu drivers? I have a iPad mini and one x. Both are smooth and responsive.
fractallyte 10y ago
If Jolla open sourced their UI technology, what would happen to the company and investors? And would Sailfish OS then be fated to suffer endless fragmentation, like Android? There's nothing terribly wrong with the closed parts of this system. Much of the phone is readily accessible to developers, and Jolla provides a lot of support. It's far more open than Android or iOS.
- hackney 10y ago
  I don't know about open. Trying to fish for the price and they do not sell to the U.S. apparently. I would buy this phone, or something similar, if it were actually available. The thing I can't stand about android aps is that many are not available unless you login to google. It really pisses me off too. Why does my banking ap or my email provider ap have to come directly from google?? Is it that hard to host miniature files on the sites for which the apk's are designed?? My email ap says that the playstore needs to update but the apk still works even though playstore is disabled. Stupid, stupid, stupid. On the jolla phone I would install a barebones version of gapps, if at all. Right now I am using ~9 apk's I can find nowhere else but the playstore and tbh If my phone was rooted I would remove them all.
- pencilmark 10y ago
  Sorry to use this thread but I'm interested in the Windows version of Living Cels you mentioned in another thread that is now closed. Any chance of contacting you?
  - fractallyte 10y ago
    My email's in my profile!
ac29 10y ago
>AOSP is okay but it does not feel as snappy as when I tried iOS for which I blame Dalvik. Dalvik hasn't been used since Android 4.4. It was replaced with ART in 5.0, which was released towards the end of 2014.

cm3 10y ago

I don't want to sound dismissive but why is that a deciding factor over, say, an Android phone? At least the UI should be easier to make snappy with Qt underneath so I'd consider it if I were in the market for a phone.

ocean3 10y ago

ASOP because of gpu drivers? I have a iPad mini and one x. Both are smooth and responsive.

fractallyte 10y ago

If Jolla open sourced their UI technology, what would happen to the company and investors? And would Sailfish OS then be fated to suffer endless fragmentation, like Android? There's nothing terribly wrong with the closed parts of this system. Much of the phone is readily accessible to developers, and Jolla provides a lot of support. It's far more open than Android or iOS.

hackney 10y ago
I don't know about open. Trying to fish for the price and they do not sell to the U.S. apparently. I would buy this phone, or something similar, if it were actually available. The thing I can't stand about android aps is that many are not available unless you login to google. It really pisses me off too. Why does my banking ap or my email provider ap have to come directly from google?? Is it that hard to host miniature files on the sites for which the apk's are designed?? My email ap says that the playstore needs to update but the apk still works even though playstore is disabled. Stupid, stupid, stupid. On the jolla phone I would install a barebones version of gapps, if at all. Right now I am using ~9 apk's I can find nowhere else but the playstore and tbh If my phone was rooted I would remove them all.
pencilmark 10y ago
Sorry to use this thread but I'm interested in the Windows version of Living Cels you mentioned in another thread that is now closed. Any chance of contacting you?
- fractallyte 10y ago
  My email's in my profile!

ac29 10y ago

>AOSP is okay but it does not feel as snappy as when I tried iOS for which I blame Dalvik. Dalvik hasn't been used since Android 4.4. It was replaced with ART in 5.0, which was released towards the end of 2014.