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To a certain extent this seems like ignorant webcock bullshit. In many fields, in most cases, there actually is one answer, especially at the K-12 levels that
by henning 17y ago
To a certain extent this seems like ignorant webcock bullshit.
In many fields, in most cases, there actually is one answer, especially at the K-12 levels that much of education is directed toward. 2+2 = 4. There is nothing to collaborate on or debate in that. There's not time for students to spend hundreds of years going through the process of complete a priori discovery that pioneers in fields of knowledge did.
I'm saying there's a side to this that this post completely ignores and is reminiscent of typical Web 2.0 douchebaggery that is obsessed with rejecting everything old.
Textbook linear algebra and Bayesian statistics are an important part of some of Google's key technologies. I don't understand the complete failure to recognize value when you see it of the kind this post displays.
I am aware of Seymour Papert's ideas about "guide on the side" vs "sage on the stage" in teaching and using new educational technology to make students own their own knowledge. The author of this post is not, or else does not want to acknowledge the people he is aping.
Edit: I think unconferences are a great idea! Recognize when the audience has a lot to contribute and when it's time for one person or a panel to do the talking. Adapt to the situation at hand. I completely support that. What a revolution in American life it would be if we could imbue our children with real intellectual curiosity! Just don't make things so one-sided is all I'm saying.
- dood 17y ago2+2 = 4. There is nothing to collaborate on or debate in that. There's not time for students to spend hundreds of years going through the process of complete a priori discovery that pioneers in fields of knowledge did. This isn't at all what he is saying, I think you misunderstood (or I did). The key points, as I understood the piece: - Avoid duplicating effort, instead add value, "just as journalists must become more curator than creator, so must educators" - Rather than educate based on a factory-line mentality, engage with the audience/students, in order to help them learn more effectively, "instead of giving tests to find out what [people] learned, we should test to find out what they don't know. Their wrong answers aren't failures, they are needs and opportunities." - Instead of getting students to memorize answers or techniques, focus on helping them learn how to find answers and understand techniques, "Google sprung from seeing the novel. Is our educational system preparing students to work for or create Googles? Googles don’t come from lectures."
- hartror 17y agoI know for me the traditional school system was of little use to me in a scholastic sense where at around age 13 I taught myself to program. From there on in it taught me nothing I couldn't (and did) teach myself. What it DID teach me however is important social interaction skills, patience and gave my parents some much needed breathing room. ;)
- dood 17y agoI also taught myself programming/CS as a teen. Funnily enough, I later ended up teaching my computing classmates because the real teachers were so bad. One teacher was so bad that one of his lessons actually removed my understanding of some CS concept I had understood for years.
- loup-vaillant 17y agoThis remind me Dr Tae: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=698600 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=698600
- dood 17y agoThis is a great video.