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Everyone is giving examples of situations where they think an autonomous car will have trouble but many of them boil down to the same thing. Cars will not truly

by extr 10y ago

Everyone is giving examples of situations where they think an autonomous car will have trouble but many of them boil down to the same thing. Cars will not truly be able to drive as well as humans until they can model humans as other rational agents and interpret subtle environmental cues (like nonstandard signage). Maybe this still isn't strong AI, but it's pretty damn close. So in that regard "fully autonomous" cars are still a ways off, more like decades than years. But I've always thought the industry will still push forward quickly, the core tech is finally getting good enough that there is a strong incentive to just go in and brute force many of the little logic "defects" inherent in the current state of AI. If it can work really really well but only for 70% of weather/driving conditions that still has huge value.

colejohnson66 10y ago
4 way stop signs were really confusing for me when I first learned how to drive. It seems there's so many nuances about when you should go or not. Is there even an algorithm available to handle them?
- ktRolster 10y ago
  Good point, that's a tricky one, especially when you add in pedestrians and bicycles.
- extr 10y ago
  According to a NYT time article [1] they can already do that. I'm sure by this point they can model other vehicles behavior in common situations like this. But ktRolster brings up a good point, there are many situations where a glance is all that is used or needed to signal intent. In the article they mention that at four-way stops they do this by just inching forward and testing the waters, but obviously you don't want to inch forward into a pedestrian or bicycler. Makes me wonder if we might want to standardize the method of communicating intentions to pedestrians across all self-driving cars. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/technology/personaltech/google-says-its-not-the-driverless-cars-fault-its-other-drivers.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/technology/personaltech/go...
- eru 10y ago
  Self-driving cars already work well in Google's Mountain View. Mountain View has four way stop signs. So, yes.
MicroBerto 10y ago
It doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be above average. To me, at least. And given how drivers have gotten WORSE since smart phones hit the scene, I'm ready for these robots right now. I don't feel safe on the roads at all anymore.

by extr 10y ago

colejohnson66 10y ago

4 way stop signs were really confusing for me when I first learned how to drive. It seems there's so many nuances about when you should go or not. Is there even an algorithm available to handle them?

ktRolster 10y ago
Good point, that's a tricky one, especially when you add in pedestrians and bicycles.
extr 10y ago
According to a NYT time article [1] they can already do that. I'm sure by this point they can model other vehicles behavior in common situations like this. But ktRolster brings up a good point, there are many situations where a glance is all that is used or needed to signal intent. In the article they mention that at four-way stops they do this by just inching forward and testing the waters, but obviously you don't want to inch forward into a pedestrian or bicycler. Makes me wonder if we might want to standardize the method of communicating intentions to pedestrians across all self-driving cars. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/technology/personaltech/google-says-its-not-the-driverless-cars-fault-its-other-drivers.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/technology/personaltech/go...
eru 10y ago
Self-driving cars already work well in Google's Mountain View. Mountain View has four way stop signs. So, yes.

MicroBerto 10y ago

It doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be above average. To me, at least. And given how drivers have gotten WORSE since smart phones hit the scene, I'm ready for these robots right now. I don't feel safe on the roads at all anymore.