>Because for one, Intel still has a better process technology One of the reasons I've had some hope for Zen, personally, is because AMD has put manufacturing a

>Because for one, Intel still has a better process technology One of the reasons I've had some hope for Zen, personally, is because AMD has put manufacturing and tech sharing agreements in place with Samsung ahead of the Zen launch. Intel still arguably has a process lead, but Samsung is one of the only companies in the world that has the resources to compete. A couple of years ago, I thought Intel's process lead might be a semi-permanent advantage. Now I'm seeing some hope that may finally be coming to an end.