Good call on the apps. I think we can agree the idea of reusable apps hasn't really worked out. Still, I don't see how this tips anything in favor of Pylons. As

Good call on the apps. I think we can agree the idea of reusable apps hasn't really worked out. Still, I don't see how this tips anything in favor of Pylons. As for the debugger, I've been using pdb extensively. Errors thrown by templates are very annoying however, showing a huge stack trace through the template rendering scope and nothing to do with whatever caused the error. To solve this I've had this at the bottom of my urls.py (http://dpaste.de/9Emp/ http://dpaste.de/9Emp/). It prints out exceptions straight to runserver. Also useful if you're letting project managers test your site and they come across a bug - you can just inspect it right away.