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> it is easier to play along and pretend we enjoyed it, even convince ourselves it was good, than admitting we were lead on and it is pretty bland Even easier

by philh 10y ago

> it is easier to play along and pretend we enjoyed it, even convince ourselves it was good, than admitting we were lead on and it is pretty bland Even easier than this is to actually enjoy things. I didn't like it myself, but I'm happy to believe that my friends did. Why do you claim people are pretending to like TFA but not the prequels?

hexane360 10y ago
They were never actually excited for the prequels, and/or it's long enough ago that they forgot the buildup to the prequels.
a_imho 10y ago
I don't think I have claimed that, but I believe it is more apparent in this case because TFA is the copy/remake/homage
- philh 10y ago
  > I don't think I have claimed that True, but you are claiming that people are pretending to like TFA, and presumably you don't think people are pretending to like the prequels. It's rare to hear anything good about the prequels. What's the "it" that's more apparent?
  - a_imho 10y ago
    I mean the skewing effect of a cult following on the perception of the movie's qualities is more apparent here. I believe when someone is a fan they is already invested and hence incentivized to like/defend a movie/brand/franchise. Which is true for the prequels too btw. However TFA being merely a remake makes it objectively inferior imo, as I think people rate original artistic works higher (at least I do). A fact, which is not really reflected nor in its commercial, neither in its critical success. All that said, I might be just arguing about taste and trying to rationalizing my dislike for TFA.
    - philh 10y ago
      It sounds like you're saying the effect is more apparent because TFA is bad. But the effect you claim is that people pretend (to themselves or others) to like works that have a brand or franchise or cult following behind them. And you admit that the prequels have that too. But then we would expect people to either like or pretend to like the prequels. And we don't see that. The prequels are widely disdained. And you haven't explained why the prequels don't get the same pretense as TFA.

by philh 10y ago

hexane360 10y ago

They were never actually excited for the prequels, and/or it's long enough ago that they forgot the buildup to the prequels.

a_imho 10y ago

I don't think I have claimed that, but I believe it is more apparent in this case because TFA is the copy/remake/homage

philh 10y ago
> I don't think I have claimed that True, but you are claiming that people are pretending to like TFA, and presumably you don't think people are pretending to like the prequels. It's rare to hear anything good about the prequels. What's the "it" that's more apparent?
- a_imho 10y ago
  I mean the skewing effect of a cult following on the perception of the movie's qualities is more apparent here. I believe when someone is a fan they is already invested and hence incentivized to like/defend a movie/brand/franchise. Which is true for the prequels too btw. However TFA being merely a remake makes it objectively inferior imo, as I think people rate original artistic works higher (at least I do). A fact, which is not really reflected nor in its commercial, neither in its critical success. All that said, I might be just arguing about taste and trying to rationalizing my dislike for TFA.
  - philh 10y ago
    It sounds like you're saying the effect is more apparent because TFA is bad. But the effect you claim is that people pretend (to themselves or others) to like works that have a brand or franchise or cult following behind them. And you admit that the prequels have that too. But then we would expect people to either like or pretend to like the prequels. And we don't see that. The prequels are widely disdained. And you haven't explained why the prequels don't get the same pretense as TFA.